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    echoblaze is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    it's ironic how gluttony got eaten, but...

    "Gluttony: force-fed rats, toads, and snakes"

    i'm somewhat disappointed the manga didn't incorporate the original punishment (from Dante's Inferno) for Gluttony. for those that are new-ish, here's the full list:

    * Lust: smothered in brimstone and fire
    * Gluttony: force-fed rats, toads, and snakes
    * Greed: boiled in oil
    * Sloth: thrown into a snake pit
    * Wrath: dismembered alive
    * Envy: put in freezing water
    * Pride: broken on the wheel

    Lust was actually burnt to death, and Greed was indeed boiled in oil.

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    Oh well - I think itīs a greater punishment for a glutton to be consumed itself,donīt you think?Besides,Gluttony could eat anything anyway ^^

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    As well as the fact that while the conciousness we've known as 'gluttony' has indeed died the sin, his essence, has not.

    Pride absorbed him

    So if he does indeed combine the punishments for pride and gluttony some how he did specifically meet the requirement.


    Of course 'envy' was destroyed in the snow but didnt die, so it fits the freezing water bit but he didnt die. She's proven to be a bit lenient before with her analogies.

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    Chapter 88 is looking good. I reckon we'll be having a battle between Pride and Hoho. That should be EPIC.


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    hmm Philosopher's stone v.s. homunculus... decisions decisions. Yea i'm sticking with Hohemheim.

    "He is now declaring his words to the WORLD!"

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    Yeah, I'd definitely say Hoho would win, but not without heaps of damage. He only narrowly escaped Pride in the transmutation tunnel, so I reckon it'll be a close one.


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    I don't think that he actually tried to fight pride there though. In my opinion he just tried to escape. I think it was because the main body wasn't there too. Pride might be the "strongest" homunculus, but it (in my opinion) would still be far inferior to the real thing. Also I don't see Hoho fighting Pride himself. Remember the scene where he plunges his fingers into his chest and then says "forgive me..." and names off a bunch of people while tossing his blood? What if thoes are his homunculi and his freinds? If so I can see them waiting in the background to strike.

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    No, he's just addressing the souls of Xerxes by name. They aren't homunculi. In doing that, I think he's making some kind of counter-transmutation circle, and he's putting extra power at the nodes of the circle by using his souls.


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    ^I agree. He knows that his made out of philosopher's stone so his actually using the lives (souls?) of those people.

    Next chapter should be very interesting. I do hope that Hohenheim doesn't decide to just help everyone escape. I want him to beat the crap out of that homonculus. Humiliating him and hurting his... uh pride? (bad pun, I know)

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    So you guys are saying that basicly he is making a counter circle to try and destroy what "Father" is doing, right? In that case he needs to know exactly what Father is doing, and I personally don't think he does. I just think that he is interested in two things 1) saving his sons (insert arguements for fighting pride here) and 2) stoping anything like the original circle from happening again. For no. 2 you would need to know not only the exact lines for the circle, but also the exact center (look at what happened the first time). I will buy that if you mess one line up, the result may not be what you expect.

 

 
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