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    Kiamnenieh is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    hmm well maybe it's because the duels didn't give you any adavantage...
    but with the new roles you can easily gain points by simply aswering a few questions...

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    Urameshi-sama is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    ^Well, are duels really worth more now? If one person still ends up dying, people who accept duels already only have ~50% rate of survival (since a person who is much lower in points wouldn't enter a duel and entering a duel means killing the other person). Now add the extra risk of these questions on top. Doesn't make for such a cherry situation for the person who considers the risks. The only thing this new duel functionality does is quicken one of the duelists death.

    Now compared to staying out of the duel and going for upgrades...the risks are about equal (due to point cancel and being able to be killed by the dead), but the possibility of being taken out quickly is (generally) smaller, since others will have to either point cancel or build up on point upgrades to be able to do so. And you'll be using this time for yourself too...
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    Kiamnenieh is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    ^hmmm possibly...

    well, i did't add the question rule to make duels a little more interesting...
    you're right about the duels ending faster with that rule...

    since i really don't want to let go of the question rule (i had a nice duel on survivor two with that rule..) i'll have to take back some of the other rules...

    let's see...
    point canceling is a pretty cool rule i'm going to keep it...
    the dead beeing able to attack the living...
    i don't really get that rule, if you're dead you already lost, so whats the point in interfering? that rule is out...

    now the upgrades...
    i'll leave that up to you, do you want the upgrades or do you want me to remove that rule?

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    i don't really get that rule, if you're dead you already lost, so whats the point in interfering? that rule is out
    I like this rule. I like it because it makes you not go killing everyone just because they were offline at the time. Fear of revenge is important.

    @Urameshi: XD
    I was waiting for you to write all this cuz I was just too lazy to do it . ^__^

    So I can only say one thing: yes, I agree entirely.
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    kiam, look at this.
    However, duels are not cancelable and if they don't end within 30 posts since they started, the duel is over and both duelists die...
    I mean, in survivor we could basically fill 3 pages in less than half an hour! that means instant death, never mind the questions or the duelling itself!
    No one will take it. 86% chances no one will anyway.
    Both duellists would need to have a jell lot of time in their hands for this. No one will enter a duel if they don't have time to finish it.

    Would you start a duel with mouse and then take off? nevar.


    ALSO,
    Don't forget that you won't be there all the time, modding. It's going to be hard enough with the "minus one point per 30 posts for those that are not active". You'll have to constantly keep track of the score and now you want to do the question thingy. But let me ask you this: If you were to be offline when a duel starts, wouldn't it be unfair to those 2 players not to receive any questions when others might have earlier?

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    sign me up. :P


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    Kiamnenieh is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    @sakrua..
    your right...
    i cannot remeber how the second survior game host (dunno who it was) managed it, but it seems right that that question thing is a bit much...

    so i'm going to take back the duell question thing...

    what do i do with the tons of questions i already gathered?!...damn^^

    well it looks like it's going to be the same game that mouse already did...
    it's easier that way i think...

    so nevermind the whole rule debate...

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    I'll joint this time

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    ^finally. ^__^

    I'll tell you how it worked.
    Duels had no time limit. We were using the duel as an excuse to protect ourselves from outside attacks.
    The result was the limit we have been imposing in recent games.
    So the rules end up contradicting themselves.



    Don't get me wrong. My intention was not to discourage you in any way....=__=
    It's your choice if you're keeping the current rules or not.I'm just stating things that might happen in different situations so we won't end up like in early games with a "hole in the system".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiamnenieh View Post
    @sakrua..
    your right...
    i cannot remeber how the second survior game host (dunno who it was) managed it, but it seems right that that question thing is a bit much...

    so i'm going to take back the duell question thing...

    what do i do with the tons of questions i already gathered?!...damn^^

    well it looks like it's going to be the same game that mouse already did...
    it's easier that way i think...

    so nevermind the whole rule debate...
    Kiam, I think reintroducing the questions is a great idea (I was the one who put it in the 2nd survivor in fact). You can still use them sensibly by making them available in and out of duels. You could make it such that every once in a while, you post up questions and allow players to make their bets and give their answers at the same time. The first person to get the right answer to a question gets the extra points. You can make the 2 separate sets of questions for those who enter duels too. That would force the questions to be used.

    Another thing that might make the duelling and using the questions more popular is taking out the upgrades. But, you plan the game however you want since you're running it this round (and seriously, seeing so many similar games back to back is -_-).

    I was the 2nd survivor host, so ask any questions you want. One big difference between these 2 games is that duelling was actually favorable in the game I created then. With upgrades and the uncancellable nature of duels in this game, duels are unfavorable. You can play around with the rules to make duelling favorable in this game as well.
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    Kiamnenieh is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    hmm i'm going back to read the rules of the second game, because i thought that theses question thing was quite fun...
    Last edited by Kiamnenieh; 09-24-2008 at 01:33 PM.

 

 
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