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    ^well as long as we don't have any other suspect, I agree with lynching urameshi...
    but we should pay attention to every post that is made...
    maybe we'll get a better suspect...

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    Basically if we jakko's a cultist then...
    these are the suspects.
    2. bipolargraph
    4. Urameshi-sama
    6. Compjotr
    7. Kiamnenieh
    9. Rypkord

    Of course we have to consider if jakko was either serious (innocent), or that he is too smart for us (puts up a vampire in his doubted list). We can also take out kiamnenieh cause of the argument they have (could of been acted though), and me because I'm so special, we have urameshi, comp, and rykord. Of course this is all speculation.
    I say our chance of winning is 1/6.
    Edit: I'm not special but you guys just love me.
    edit2; I'm really tempted to leave jakko, and to go for either comp, urameshi, or rypkord.

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    Nope, I am not a cultist. Actually, MSG confirmed he was the seer, and that he pinged me, on IRC, with DE watching, though that is neither here, nor there, as the cultist would not show up as such. I will say that I am not the cultist. In previous games, I would never say outright what I was or was not, dance around the issue. This is not one of those times.

    I vote kaom.

    What just happened? There were two people that were for helping the townies win, and suspicious of members. Adonai and myself. Adonai is dead, and now some are trying to kill me. Does that not strike anyone as odd?

    Also, I said that we hide the guardian protection, because the guardian protected me the first day after I asked. That means that the guardian is willing to protect who we ask. However, this brings into context two things: The wolves might gamble, hoping the guardian is dead, and end up losing their kill attacking someone the townies feel is worth guarding(for example, bipolar). Or, they will chicken out and attack someone else. Either way, the ability to direct their attacks, even in a limited way, is an asset.

    There are obviously some gullible people out there, willing to be swayed by the most faulty logic(hey Kiam), and I think they need to put a bit more thought into what they do before they jump on the bandwagon.

    Mark my words:
    kaom and flash, I call you out as werewolves.


    Edit: Oooooh, on top of that kaom set herself up. She implied that MSG revealed himself to me, then I got him killed. Problem with that being, MSG also said on the IRC channel that he had told no one. DE can you produce those logs? We got a live one, here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakko View Post



    There are obviously some gullible people out there, willing to be swayed by the most faulty logic(hey Kiam), and I think they need to put a bit more thought into what they do before they jump on the bandwagon.

    Mark my words:
    kaom and flash, I call you out as werewolves.
    Die first.. then I'll mark everything you want...

    I don't think my logic is faulty, but what else should you(the wolf)
    say to save yourself...
    after all this is a game...so in the next one you can get your revenge by trying to kill me( thats only IF i was wrong, what i don't believe)...

    well maybe I'm still a little pissed because you insulted my intelligence, but that has nothing to do with my reasoning, that you are a monster, or at least the cultist...


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    Quote Originally Posted by jakko
    Edit: Oooooh, on top of that kaom set herself up. She implied that MSG revealed himself to me, then I got him killed. Problem with that being, MSG also said on the IRC channel that he had told no one. DE can you produce those logs? We got a live one, here.
    well even if thats the case, that doesn't disproof MY theory...
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    You know what, I'm just too in-experienced to judge anything in this games. I didn't know about the IRC chat, I thought you messed up. I'll think a little before saying anything. Meanwhile I take back my votes from jakko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiamnenieh View Post
    Die first.. then I'll mark everything you want...

    I don't think my logic is faulty, but what else should you(the wolf)
    say to save yourself...
    after all this is a game...so in the next one you can get your revenge by trying to kill me( thats only IF i was wrong, what i don't belive)...

    well maybe I'm still a little pissed because you insulted my intelligence, but that has nothing to do with my resoning, that you are a monster, or at least the cultist...


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    well even if thats the case, that doesn't disproof MY theory...
    If you think I am so petty as to hold a grudge to the next game, then I will insult your intelligence again. There, consider yourself insulted.

    On top of that, you have contradicted yourself. Am I a wolf, or a cultist? Pick one, and stick to it. That is what people call "faulty logic."

    Also, you misspelled "believe," and "reasoning," and if you are so petty yourself to hold a grudge over a verbal spar someone made over the INTERNET then consider yourself doubly(well, now, triply) insulted.

    You logic just doesn't stand up. After all, if you look at previous games, I never went out and said something explicitly unless I had to, and then, it was never false. Why would I suddenly change this game? On top of that, why did I not make myself invisible, if I was a wolf?

    On top of that, your logic completely fails when you take the IRC convo into account. MSG admitted he pinged me. If, as you say, I turned up as a wolf(you seem to be implying that, because if I was a cultist, I would not show up as a "new vision of wargs," but merely a human), he would have PMed people, told people, just in case. After all, he does have alternate accounts he could anonymously send messages through. It falls even flatter with your constant waffling. If I am a cultist, I would not show up as a "New vision of wargs," and it is just a turn of a phrase, and, on top of that, I would specifically NOT mention being pinged. If I was a wolf, I would have gone invisible, not mentioned being pinged, and definitely not mentioned being a townie, because, even though I am against swearing unless necessary, the fact is that it is an anathema to me to lie at all. Above all, your logic can't stand if you can't pick one bad guy that I am. Pick one, and go with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakko
    If you think I am so petty as to hold a grudge to the next game, then I will insult your intelligence again. There, consider yourself insulted.

    On top of that, you have contradicted yourself. Am I a wolf, or a cultist? Pick one, and stick to it. That is what people call "faulty logic."

    Also, you misspelled "believe," and "reasoning," and if you are so petty yourself to hold a grudge over a verbal spar someone made over the INTERNET then consider yourself doubly(well, now, triply) insulted.

    You logic just doesn't stand up. After all, if you look at previous games, I never went out and said something explicitly unless I had to, and then, it was never false. Why would I suddenly change this game? On top of that, why did I not make myself invisible, if I was a wolf?

    On top of that, your logic completely fails when you take the IRC convo into account. MSG admitted he pinged me. If, as you say, I turned up as a wolf(you seem to be implying that, because if I was a cultist, I would not show up as a "new vision of wargs," but merely a human), he would have PMed people, told people, just in case. After all, he does have alternate accounts he could anonymously send messages through. It falls even flatter with your constant waffling. If I am a cultist, I would not show up as a "New vision of wargs," and it is just a turn of a phrase, and, on top of that, I would specifically NOT mention being pinged. If I was a wolf, I would have gone invisible, not mentioned being pinged, and definitely not mentioned being a townie, because, even though I am against swearing unless necessary, the fact is that it is an anathema to me to lie at all. Above all, your logic can't stand if you can't pick one bad guy that I am. Pick one, and go with it.
    1.I trying extremely hard to stay polite, because you are insulting me again, and normally would react in another way, but this is just a game after all.
    and it was just a offer to kill me in the next game so just say yes or no...

    2. I don't remeber holding a grudge against anyone because of a "verbal spar", so don't imply things that are simply not true, after all i thought you wouldn't lie. And about me misspelling things, who cares as long as everyone understands, after all I'm not a native english speaker so i can live with a few misspelled words.

    3.
    You logic just doesn't stand up. After all, if you look at previous games, I never went out and said something explicitly unless I had to, and then, it was never false. Why would I suddenly change this game? On top of that, why did I not make myself invisible, if I was a wolf?
    so what?
    I was a wolf in chaos's game and didn't make myself invisible.
    does that make my logic fail? I don't think so...


    4. I can't proof your irc activities, and i don't want to.
    despite that those who got killed are not allowed to talk to the living about the game so your evidence is worthless because it's against the rules, if you talk about such evidence show it, or stop talking about it...


    edit:
    oh and i nearly forgot...
    wolf or cultist...
    you're right you are not the cultist you're the wolf...
    don't be to confident because you found a little mistake in my reasoning, that doesn't make it worthless after all...
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    Orgy-porgy, Ford and fun,
    Kiss the girls and make them One.
    Boys at one with girls at peace;
    Orgy-porgy gives release.
    Orgy-porgy, Ford and fun,
    Kiss the girls and make them One.
    Boys at one with girls at peace;
    Orgy-porgy gives release.
    Orgy-porgy, Ford and fun,
    Kiss the girls and make them One.
    Boys at one with girls at peace;
    Orgy-porgy gives release.
    Orgy-porgy, Ford and fun,
    Kiss the girls and make them One.
    Boys at one with girls at peace;
    Orgy-porgy gives release.

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    Jakko, your arguments are moving out of the game boundaries :/
    I did not put anonymous messages through alternative accouns, dead people conversations and ultimate honesty into account when I came to the conclusion, that you're most likely a wolf...

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    True, but that is neither here nor there. True is true. A slip up by one person(MSG), accidental though it may be, is perfectly useable, in the same way as adonai's shopped fake screencap's were legal. Regardless, I am yet to here a valid reason why I would admit to being pinged if I was a wolf or cultist.

 

 
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