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    Quote Originally Posted by coolpuprocks View Post
    If it's not too late to vote...

    since nothing can obviously be done about Aurora...

    I vote...

    _vincent_ and Quira

    for confusing the hell out of me with these rules.
    I would rather have all three back, however, the rules seem to favor adonai coming back, however, they also favor some for Chiza and Spermy, and I prefer having two bodies to one(not to be callous, but one extra body means one less attack the vamps get on roled townies). So, I guess what I am trying to say is: Bring them all back an I will love you forever, Quira. And Vincent to a lesser extend, sorry, I just don't swing that way.

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    People...

    A mistake has/had been made.
    Foresight vamp was allowed info early.
    Compensation is now under discussion.
    HUGE APOLOGY to all the hassle... and of course the idiot mistake =='

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiraikotsu View Post
    People...

    A mistake has/had been made.
    Foresight vamp was allowed info early.
    Compensation is now under discussion.
    HUGE APOLOGY to all the hassle... and of course the idiot mistake =='
    Run that by us again?

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    ^ It's not night yet, but they now know who to kill...

    And your math is wrong Jakko, just so you know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolpuprocks View Post
    If it's not too late to vote...

    since nothing can obviously be done about Aurora...

    I vote...

    _vincent_ and Quira

    for confusing the hell out of me with these rules.
    well it wasn't that complicated before I tried to change the rules so that it would make it easier for the Townies. the original one let's the assassin kill at any time even if the abilities are activated. I changed it so that the assassin shouldn't. (you can ask Vol, he said it in this thread as well)

    as for the foresight. It was activated at the same time as the hypnotism so both no kill days are at the same time. (this was back when hypnotisms no kills was at the same day it was activated. it was changed to the next day so that the hunter would know that the hypnotism was use and they could also stop killing and hide for awhile)

    the only problem is the info was release to early. the vamps agrees on letting a whole day with no kills as compensation for the knowledge but were still checking on the details........

    btw we told the vamps not to kill the person that came out in the result after 3 days.

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    I was meant to wait 3 day/night cycles to release the info of the identity of mason/cleric/necromancer to the vamp of foresight, but i forgot and gave it to them as a reply to their request.
    Wurghh...

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    Let's see.
    First, we need this clarified...you are still telling us when an attack fails, right?

    Day 1: Compjotr killed, one attack failed.
    Makes sense that it was the vampire vote kill, and a assassin miss.

    Day 2: adonai dead, Aik dead by hypnosis. Only thing that makes sense here, assuming we are told when an attack fails, is that the assassin(who shouldn't have been able to attack in the first place), killed adonai.

    Day 3: Chiza dead, Henchy lynched, Spermy dead. This is where it can get confusing. Did the vampires do both of these(when the hypnosis rule is still in doubt)? Or was it also the VH, and Quira has decided not to tell us anymore when an attack fails? Did the Vampire of Foresight use their ability on this day, meaning it was a VH and assassin kill, in which case the assassin kill should be invalidated?

    Day 4: The wolves have used their foresight ability, and found out who to kill early. In my mind, as they have found info they shouldn't have, the only reasonable thing to do is not allow them to use the hypnosis or assassin abilities for those three days(as they shouldn't be able to anyway, as they are vampires, and using the foresight ability means that vampires cannot kill for three days. Period.)

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    Foresight was used on day 2. Therefore in the night, when assassin should not have killed, adonai died. That's why we're ressurrecting Adonai.
    Hypnosis was also used on day 2. This is independant from foresight, so it can still be used on the same night.
    Henchy/SW/CHiza's death are valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakko View Post
    Let's see.
    First, we need this clarified...you are still telling us when an attack fails, right?

    Day 1: Compjotr killed, one attack failed.
    Makes sense that it was the vampire vote kill, and a assassin miss.
    true
    Day 2: adonai dead, Aik dead by hypnosis. Only thing that makes sense here, assuming we are told when an attack fails, is that the assassin(who shouldn't have been able to attack in the first place), killed adonai.
    Normal Vampires couldn't kill because of the hypnotism. we told everyone about that the assassin isn't affected by the hypnotisms/foresight ability and everybody at that time accepted it.
    Day 3: Chiza dead, Henchy lynched, Spermy dead. This is where it can get confusing. Did the vampires do both of these(when the hypnosis rule is still in doubt)? Or was it also the VH, and Quira has decided not to tell us anymore when an attack fails? Did the Vampire of Foresight use their ability on this day, meaning it was a VH and assassin kill, in which case the assassin kill should be invalidated?
    foresight was activated at the same time as the hypnotism. at that time no kills for activating the abilities are in the same day. all of this are valid kills. Foresight was use on day 2.
    Day 4: The wolves have used their foresight ability, and found out who to kill early. In my mind, as they have found info they shouldn't have, the only reasonable thing to do is not allow them to use the hypnosis or assassin abilities for those three days(as they shouldn't be able to anyway, as they are vampires, and using the foresight ability means that vampires cannot kill for three days. Period.)
    check previous response.

    EDIT: the no assassin kill was an addition to the new rule. I added it because I feel like the Vampires are too strong.
    Last edited by _Vincent_; 05-18-2007 at 10:52 AM.

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    ...How are the Chiza/SW deaths valid?!?
    Vampire of Foresight (Roled Vampire)
    A little minor ability given randomly to one of the vampires. This vampire has the ability to ping me and get the identity of a certain roled townie. (The vampire cannot request for what role, so it'll be random between the necromancer, cleric, and the two masons.) The night he pings, however, the vampires cannot kill anyone that night. It takes 3 nights for this to process, and it will be nulled if the vampire dies within these 3 nights.
    If they pinged on Day 2, and you gave them the info then, that means that either Chiza or spermworm was roled, and died because of information that should have been given out, because it is not even supposed to be given out at all if the Foresight dies within those three days!

    Whoever was roled should be brought back. I don't think there should be any argument over this, as it was a clear breach of the rules(though accidental) in favor of the vampires. Whether you want to bring them back without a role, or make them off-limits to killing for three days is up to you, but I think that everyone would agree that killing whoever was roled was definitely not valid.

 

 
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