I think that everyone is very confused.
Here are the retreat rules, right out of the first post of every one of these threads:
So this means, you can retreat to an enemy's supply centre. I don't see anything that stops you from retreating to enemy territory (especially if it was initially neutral), as long as it is not occupied, vacant because it was bounced out of, or the SPACE they came from. It doesn't say anything about ownership of where you retreat to, and doesn't even mention supply centres. Land owned by the attacker doesn't get special treatment, unless they happen to have a unit in it.THE RETREAT:
After all the orders have been read, the conflicts resolved, and the moves made, any dislodged unit makes its retreat. It must move to a space to which it could ordinarily move if unopposed; that is, to an adjacent space suitable to an army or to a fleet, as the case may be. The unit may not retreat, however, to any space that is occupied, not to the space the attacker came from, not to a space which was left vacant due to a stand-off on the move. If there is no such place, the retreating unit is annihilated and its marker removed from the board. An army may not be convoyed during a retreat.
I repeat: anyone can retreat to any space on the board, unless it is occupied, the space the attacker came from, or empty as a result of two people attacking it and failing to enter due to a stalemate. It doesn't matter what has a star and what doesn't.
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I was looking at another Diplomacy Rules handbook to find out more details about the retreat rule...
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http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/res.../2000AH4th.pdf
Apparently,
Therefore,
France DOES get the fleet back. It is moved to NA. Though, NA is still owned by Italy.
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Seems to be more people think "YOU CANNOT RETREAT INTO ENEMY TERRITORY"
therefore
France = no extra fleet.
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