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    Okay, I'm currently changing my vote to Kaya, but this might be changed later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayangelus
    The first evidence is only to point out, that even if you kenw he was bullet proof, you still would kill him. Lets be honest, a person who kills off special humans for personal reasons is pretty troublesome to teh human side, wolf or not. However, that is only to show your intentions.
    No, not at all. I hadn't seen the link by then - the second statement is proof - and I did not believe he was telling the truth. I did not trust his word.

    Look, I am not using the second quote as evidence taht you are a wolf. I am using it as evidence, that from that point on, you had seen the evidence, and "have not seen the evidence" could not be used for any later posts, such as quote #3.
    No, I'm aware it couldn't. That much is clear.

    So, if someone is an idiot, we kill them off? Even if potentially they are capable of being worth more than a few townies with a little guidance? Why not help them instead.
    No, we shouldn't generally kill them off because they're idiots. I have a terrible bias against people who I believe are stupid, I will admit.

    Timing is not supposed to matter in posts. I am looking there, because at that point you knew Panda's identity, and still were against him. If you don't want to be judged on your posts badly, either don't post, or think before posting.
    Oh, I beg to differ. Timing matters very much. I posted those within fifteen minutes, but who knows what I was thinking then. My actions since have been different. When I become suspicious of someone, I've looked at what they've done over a long period of time. One thing at one time is not enough to determine proper evidence unless it's very clear - like finding the smoking gun in someone's hand, and even then it's not enough.

    Answering last paragraph first: I thought you said that you were smart in these games? Not being able to figure that out means that your talent for this game isn't above normal, or you aren't trying to help humans.
    I am intelligent. I don't know what "normal" is for the game. To be honest, I just didn't think of it. It relates to my attitude towards idiots. It took me a long time to be helpful to them even in places like Download Requests, actually. It's a fairly new concept to me. Also, it might have helped the wolves somehow. I'd rather these things be kept secret.

    You wish to see more evidence? I will post the enitire quote so you don't complain, and bold important parts

    http://www.stoptazmo.com/showthread.php?t=10856&page=21 post#208

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    So, you are killing off an asset that you recognize to be an asset, because the asset won't be used to its full potential? Than why don't we kill off every special human first, cause they are sure to make mistakes, and than they won't be using their roles to the most advantagous way. You know what, why don't we ask CPR next game to have the game start with no special humans? Because it doesn't work that way. Wolves have an advantage in this game, and humans have to use everything they possibly can if they wish to win. Obviously, you would rather lose than be in a game with Panda for the whole time, because in the last day he posted 3 pictures in his posts, and God forbid that you should have to look at pictures posted by people.
    I can't justify that, I suppose. I recognize that I made a mistake saying that we should kill Panda off because he's an idiot. I will admit that. Yes, tolerance is something I need. I don't need sarcasm to tell me that. YES. Panda is an ASSET. I need TOLERANCE. Okay.

    Now, I didn't find any clear cut evidence of you trying to kill Panda anymore, cause you probably went to do something else afterwards, and by the time of your next post, it was clearly obvious that if you didn't change attitude, you would die. However, on http://www.stoptazmo.com/showthread.php?t=10856&page=25, post #247, I did find some pretty interesting stuff, that I would like to quote. Note: these are in no way the full contents of the post, however they are complete paragraphs that have not been edited.
    Because I realized my mistake.

    So killing off an asset for personal reasons is a good argument. Interesting.
    No, that's the pride speaking.

    So, why not kill you instead of Panda than. Can we kill you this round? After all, even if you are a human, we would still be able to win as you said yourself.
    Go ahead, kill me. The main thing I'm objecting to is being framed as a complete wolf. If I die by wolves, or by people voting me off, sure. I just would rather not die with logic I don't find very convincing, even if I hadn't been the topic of it.

    Note that I don't want Panda dead anymore, and haven't for a while.

    So, if someone spent a whole round posting "I'm a wolf" "I'm a wolf", than we should ignore that because we should not judge on behaviour in one round? If so, that what do we have to go on? With some people, if they are wolves, we are lucky if we catch them slip once. We should look at all the info we have, which in this case if only the past 2 days, a large part of which you spent trying to kill an identified special human.
    A round is 48 hours, not twenty minutes. That's a difference. Also, generally, people who have posted "I'm a wolf" are not the wolves. Just something I needed to bring up.

    No, I did not spend a large amount of time trying to kill an identified special human. I spent twenty minutes, part of which I was uninformed, trying to kill him. There were a number of hours when I wasn't on.

    So, what evidence do you have? You have said a number of times that you aren't stupid, so based on this, you probably have a lot of evidence right?
    Evidence for what? I haven't accused people outright of being wolves. Yes, I've voted, because that's kind of necessary, but I will admit I'm being a bit pre-emptive and seeing how people react and all to determine my suspicions. No, I don't have complete evidence and will admit it, but nor am I saying a person is definitely a wolf because of one piece of evidence (or small parts from one time).
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    Unvote kaya.

    Vote Aikido

    Sorry; I'm indecisive :P.

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    Long arguements makes games un-fun, and thus losing all meaning and value.
    blind-folded and spinning... Aikido! I vote you!
    Last edited by pentaelemental; 05-03-2006 at 05:49 PM.



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    Well since a couple of pages past alot of things changed

    kayangelus- voted for Relf
    aallx- voted for DE
    Spurgu- voted for AK
    luckythirteen- voted for cpr
    Nazihater- voted for |)4|2K Regulus
    monkey- voted for Relf
    panda- voted for Digital_Eon
    IH- voted for Relf
    mangaguy- voted for cpr
    DE- voted for Kayaangelus
    Aurora86- voted for Digital_Eon
    StealDragon- voted for Digital_Eon
    Aikido- voted for Digital_Eon
    Animarum- voted for Animarum
    Pentaelemental- voted for Relf
    Martyr3810- voted for relf
    DigitalDragon- voted for relf
    Kazechrno- voted for relf
    Total votes:18/30 (Im got everyone on this page up till kaya)

    Relf-7 - random voting I think
    DE- 5 -
    cpr- 2 - ya.....
    Animarum-2
    Kaya-1
    |)4|2K Regulus- 1
    AK-1
    Last edited by true_panda; 05-03-2006 at 06:39 PM.

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    I vote for Relf to be lynched.

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    randomly votes... Animarum!

    unvotes aikido



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    I vote Relf

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    The great IH votes for Relf to be killed! Hoorah!

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    unvotes animarum
    votes volvolgga
    unvotes volvolgga
    votes pentaelemental

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