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    The question is, would they read the warning? Would they really come back and see it, would they read a PM? Not always - and then they argue. I find a ban sets a better example - you don't read the rules, you get banned. The rules aren't hard to follow, and most bans are temporary.

    For example, my rules thread - in the title, it says read the first post, where it says that if you post here, you get permabanned. Not hard, right? I mean, it's bolded and all. Still, many people don't read. Why should I give them a warning - they've had it already. They were too lazy to read the rules like they should have.

    The rules ARE the warning. I followed them when I had problems as a new person, even before I became an active poster. It wasn't hard. I find it difficult to be nice to people who don't bother to be responsible. My job is to help, but that's a choice, and I'm not willing to help people who aren't willing to take some responsibility.
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    i have no argument there, by all means that is your prerogative.

    and yees, i think even i have gotten tired of the way things are posted in the 'help section'. not one, not one person posts in the right format.

    ok, lazy noobs deserve bans.

    as to the point of necroed threads, it in every way is better than making new ones of the same old stuff. even if they fail to add something new, because a lot of them think that they are adding something new to the thread.

    imo, people who grumble are the ones who should get bans. the others don't really intend any harm.
    but ok.
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    Why would you get tired of the Help section? You can't post there and aren't obligated to help anybody.


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    Exactly - why help someone who is too lazy to read the rules and post correctly? I'm happy with the way things work in Help because people have to learn to read. ^_^

    Looking at other forums that I've been to... why not have one official thread for major series that are brought up time and time again, and nothing else? An official Berserk thread, an official Fruits Basket thread... All discussion can go in that thread, and there can be links to those in the Misc. Series list (which will hopefully be used more if this system is implemented).

    Take a look at how it's done here (and no, that's not a shameless promotion for my favourite J-pop forums... =P)

    Add a recommendation thread, and boom!...easy to organize. Any new threads could be deleted/locked.

    As for the necro, if an official thread died, a necro would be necessary - but it would make SENSE.

    Just a thought. ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impromptu_Caveat View Post
    imo, people who grumble are the ones who should get bans. the others don't really intend any harm.
    but ok.
    Lets put that into a real world senario for a second.
    I accidentally hack your face off with a machette, but its OK because I didn't mean any harm since it was an accident. However, since you are now screaming and writhing in pain, your the one who goes to jail.

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    hmm.
    that's a very good idea. probably will be considered. it should be. there are quite a few threads floating out there which are quite popular but don't have any particular section devoted to them. one gets random bits of it here and there. this will probably be implemented. but how many can one make. if too many are stickied then it'll probably fill up the whole of the first page. that won't be very good either. the edit : section /edit will require strong management sooon if it begins to get organized.

    @mystic - i go to the help section for occasional laughs. sometimes the mods are at there very,very best. you have genious flaming. poetic even.
    but lately it's been cumbersome. even just reading.

    @98 - that's coming on a bit strong, and kind of not that logical either.seriously, look at it yourself. that's kind of a pseudo remark
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    Arm yourself because no-one else here will save you,The odds will betray you,And I will replace you,
    You can't deny the prize it may never fulfill you,It longs to kill you,Are you willing to die?
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    You don't have to sticky them - just create them, leave a link in a list-thread, and let them be necroed when they die while deleting any other threads on the topic. It's worked really well for that site (although five pages isn't a lot).

    I agree - Help has some wonderful flames. ^_^
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    okay, so who's going to do it? i have already brought to my attention the fact that martyr is indisposed(absconding) and jyuu has too much on his hands already....

    the help section gets really funny when Kevin Shiel posts. really funny.
    It ain't pretty,After the show,It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you,
    With no place to go,If you think you need it,Here's the place to feed it,But it ain't pretty....
    Arm yourself because no-one else here will save you,The odds will betray you,And I will replace you,
    You can't deny the prize it may never fulfill you,It longs to kill you,Are you willing to die?
    The coldest blood runs through my veins,You know my name...
    Ode to the carnage of one resident modship.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impromptu_Caveat View Post
    @98 - that's coming on a bit strong, and kind of not that logical either.seriously, look at it yourself. that's kind of a pseudo remark
    I was making a valid point while having a bit of fun.

    The rules are in place for the benfit of the users and to keep this forum from desending into to chaos and filling up with crap. Yet you say that when someone breaks a rule, that all the (rule following) people who grumble (and have a right to do so) should be banned and the person who broke the rules should be allowed to get away with it, despite the fact that they have no intention of following the rules, since they never read them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98abaile View Post
    I was making a valid point while having a bit of fun.
    hmm. yes, i forgot you have dilberts strip as a sig. i now have those lines imprinted in my head permanently.

    Quote Originally Posted by 98abaile View Post
    The rules are in place for the benfit of the users and to keep this forum from desending into to chaos and filling up with crap. Yet you say that when someone breaks a rule, that all the (rule following) people who grumble (and have a right to do so) should be banned and the person who broke the rules should be allowed to get away with it, despite the fact that they have no intention of following the rules, since they never read them.
    o.m.g no!!!
    that was not what i was saying at all.
    i meant that the noobs who grumble after a warning and stuff should receive a ban. i meant the warning to be a favour, and thus, was trying to say that people ought not to grumble afterwards. that's all.
    Last edited by Impromptu_Caveat; 01-08-2007 at 04:59 PM.
    It ain't pretty,After the show,It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you,
    With no place to go,If you think you need it,Here's the place to feed it,But it ain't pretty....
    Arm yourself because no-one else here will save you,The odds will betray you,And I will replace you,
    You can't deny the prize it may never fulfill you,It longs to kill you,Are you willing to die?
    The coldest blood runs through my veins,You know my name...
    Ode to the carnage of one resident modship.......

 

 
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