Thread: 280th Down...clash of talents

Well, like I said, the problem with the technique is that it's mainly knowledge-based. Meaning once you knew how the technique worked, you could work to nullify it. If defeating Gaou was simply a matter of knowing this technique, shouldn't Hiruma be making the entire team learn it? Saying that there's only one person that can defeat Akaba is giving HIM way too much credit.

Now you're just putting words into my mouth. I never said Himura is the only one person who can defeat Akaba, I simply said that Himura was the only one that was able to pull off what he did (heck, he was the only one who had the opportunity to do so).

I do not remember what Akaba said verbatim, but apparently it is very difficult to do what Himura did on the spot. I'm guessing this is not something that you could simply watch someone do and quickly grasp it and adjust. However, that is exactly what Himura was able to do, and that surprised Akaba.

Obviously having knowledge about your opponents works to your advantage, but do you always get that kind of luxury? Yamato is a man shrouded in mystery, we know almost nothing about him. Who knows what he is capable of.

Oh, and I also never said it was "simply a matter of knowing this technique." I said a combination of high level speed, power, and technique might be enough to triumph over absolute strength. I'm guessing that Yamato excels in all these areas.

You're right. I should probably go back and read the Bando match again, because I'm not 100% sure on a lot of the things I said.

I guess my opinion is that Gaou has more than just brute strength as a football player. Marco is the brains of the outfit, but Gaou has a certain amount of perception, intelligence, and instinct. Akaba is an amazing player, no doubt, but I don't think his technique alone would be enough to stop someone like Gaou.

But, like you said, perhaps Yamato possesses the ability to completely shut down someone like Gaou. It sounds ridiculous that there would be that large of a difference between the two, but I guess this the level the author is putting him on, along with Taka. As we've seen in this chapter, even Agon recognizes the man's dangerous talent. My guess is that the Devilbats won't be defeating the Alexanders (if at all) through the tried-and-true means of Sena and Monta this time.

I second Newbie when s/he said

Oh, and I also never said it was "simply a matter of knowing this technique." I said a combination of high level speed, power, and technique might be enough to triumph over absolute strength. I'm guessing that Yamato excels in all these areas.

I think most of this applies for the whole team, since only the players with the most effective balance of the these elements will be on the field. It applies to Yamato and Taka the most, but the whole excellent quality of players in skill and physical ability coupled with their vast repertoire make them a very difficult team to overcome.

But, the way Teikoku's team has worked lends a few ideas for how to defeat them. I'm willing to bet that if Sena and Monta were able to bring back the play book Yamato gave them, Hiruma at least would memorize all the plays in a snap and would devise counterplays that would address multiple plays Teikoku could use.

Also, Deimon has the advantage in growth potential since their team is so much more imbalanced and is currently made up of a few strong players and many mediocre ones. The training will obviously pay off for some players who show a lot of potential but haven't quite hit it yet, like Yukimitsu.

As for Gaou, I don't see why you respect him so much Jesus. He did initially try to follow his instincts or act as if he was a wild beast, even if he was using his head in doing so. Gaou only started using technique once he faced Kurita. whose technique allowed him to initially overcome Gaou. So Gaou was also one of those underdeveloped players.

Also, aside from the quick passing and speedy quarterback strategies that could be used to evade Gaou, the fact that Teikoku has such a heirarchy for quarterbacks means that if one is taken down, there's like another 12 to replace him on the field.