Thread: 280th Down...clash of talents

...Sena has lost multiple times, in multiple ways.

Getting past a linebacker ONCE for ONE touchdown doesn't mean you 'beat' him -_-.

Sena can now match the best linebackers in Kanto, sure, but he doesn't and hasn't beaten most of them.

Originally Posted by logrusmage

...Sena has lost multiple times, in multiple ways.

Getting past a linebacker ONCE for ONE touchdown doesn't mean you 'beat' him -_-.

Sena can now match the best linebackers in Kanto, sure, but he doesn't and hasn't beaten most of them.

I totally agree sena is one lucky guy i guess , but he didn't beat them for good and he usually pass them at the end of the match

Originally Posted by logrusmage

...Sena has lost multiple times, in multiple ways.

Getting past a linebacker ONCE for ONE touchdown doesn't mean you 'beat' him -_-.

Sena can now match the best linebackers in Kanto, sure, but he doesn't and hasn't beaten most of them.

Sena hasn't beaten his opponents completely, but at least he has beaten their strongest techniques (e.g. Marco's Screw Bite, Shin's Trident Tackle, Agon's Godspeed Impulse, Kakei's Moby Dick Anchor). He has shown that he can make their techniques useless against him.

Unless those opponents evolve like he did, Sena may beat them again and again in future, since Sena always evolves in every match he plays.

We already knew Yamato's real style since Kakei already told us about it. Anyways, looking back, Himura's goal was never to win the whole tournament, but to get to Christmas Bowl. He's probably already calculated that there is no chance of defeating Teikoku.

Interestingly, even though Teikoku is suppose to have several powerful players, it seems like the real threats are Yamato & Taka (maybe Karin?). I wouldn't be surprised to see Sena and Monta to be defeated by these two, but stall them enough for their team to score the touchdowns.

Man, I'm really intrigued about what their plan was for dealing with Gao. I am assuming that no one on their team would be able to hold him back. Is Karin even faster than Kid? Or does Yamato actually have the power, along with the technique, to hold back Gao? (Recall what Akaba did to Kurita before.)

i really, really hope teikkoku won't be just a two-trick pony (yamato, taka). i really, really hope that teikkoku actually has really good players at all positions. otherwise, it'd be a bit of a letdown considering teikkoku is hyped as a team filled with superstars.

not sure about gaou. maybe karin is super fast at passing. in any case, considering how tall taka is, and how high he can jump, and how impressive his catching skill is - i doubt that anyone on the Dinosaurs can stop a pass (if karin is indeed fast enough)

edit: one disappointment is that they didn't train sena to be a replacement QB. that would've been pretty awesome. maybe they'll do it anyway in the Christmas Bowl.

Originally Posted by Newbie

He's probably already calculated that there is no chance of defeating Teikoku.

If there's no chance to defeat them, why would he bother summoning all the superstars of Kanto to help train for the match? There's a reason every single member of the team is paired up with someone; Yamato and Taka insure that the Devilbats can't depend on Sena and Monkey alone for the win. Yukimitsu in particular has proven to be a surprisingly effective secret weapon in the games he's played, and several other players (like the Ha-ha brothers) haven't gotten an opportunity to shine just yet.

Is Karin even faster than Kid?

Kid is known for his quickdraw and pinpoint accuracy. I'm sure Karin will excel in some other way which we haven't seen in other QBs. I'm guessing she might be really good at QB sneaks and running the ball, or something like that (in addition to being an excellent QB).

Or does Yamato actually have the power, along with the technique, to hold back Gao? (Recall what Akaba did to Kurita before.)

Shin is the strongest linebacker in Japan, but Gao is supposedly the strongest player, period. It would be ridiculous if Yamato was able to topple Gao, though I don't doubt Yamato would be able to easily outrun and dodge him.

Originally Posted by JesusFreakDK

If there's no chance to defeat them, why would he bother summoning all the superstars of Kanto to help train for the match? There's a reason every single member of the team is paired up with someone; Yamato and Taka insure that the Devilbats can't depend on Sena and Monkey alone for the win. Yukimitsu in particular has proven to be a surprisingly effective secret weapon in the games he's played, and several other players (like the Ha-ha brothers) haven't gotten an opportunity to shine just yet.

Besides the original 3, the rest are all still green. Maybe he's thinking of the future? Yeah, this is contrary to Himura's personality, but the guy is also a realist.

Originally Posted by JesusFreakDK

Kid is known for his quickdraw and pinpoint accuracy. I'm sure Karin will excel in some other way which we haven't seen in other QBs. I'm guessing she might be really good at QB sneaks and running the ball, or something like that (in addition to being an excellent QB).

Does she really look like she would be able to out-run or sneak by Gao? The Dino's strategy was to always have Gao blitz. If you really do think that she could out-maneuver Gao, then your comments below are quite contradictory to your beliefs.

Originally Posted by JesusFreakDK

Shin is the strongest linebacker in Japan, but Gao is supposedly the strongest player, period. It would be ridiculous if Yamato was able to topple Gao, though I don't doubt Yamato would be able to easily outrun and dodge him.

Even though Kurita was not as powerful as he is now, he was still a devastating force. Did you see how easily Akaba overcame this vast difference of power with technique? Although Shin does not have bad technique, he does not excel in this (recall his conversation with Riku). It's just a thought.

Originally Posted by Newbie

Does she really look like she would be able to out-run or sneak by Gao? The Dino's strategy was to always have Gao blitz. If you really do think that she could out-maneuver Gao, then your comments below are quite contradictory to your beliefs.

Actually, an effective QB sneak would have Karin escape before Gaou blasted through, but it was just a theory anyway.

Even though Kurita was not as powerful as he is now, he was still a devastating force. Did you see how easily Akaba overcame this vast difference of power with technique? Although Shin does not have bad technique, he does not excel in this (recall his conversation with Riku). It's just a thought.

The technique only works as long as you don't know what's going on. Hiruma figured it out and was able to briefly delay Akaba, IIRC. Gaou is all about brute strength, but he isn't stupid, either.

i don't want a slamdunk ending... i want a memorable one, deimon overcoming all odds...
im sure it will be sena delivering the final blow... the hiruma goes YA-HAAA... and all does the same...

Originally Posted by JesusFreakDK

The technique only works as long as you don't know what's going on. Hiruma figured it out and was able to briefly delay Akaba, IIRC. Gaou is all about brute strength, but he isn't stupid, either.

Sure, he is not a moron like Otawara but don't you think you are giving him too much credit here?

Akaba was the only one with the knowledge and technique to pull this off and Himura was the only one who discovered it. Those are their main strong points and you believe Gao is at least at par with them?