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    Katana Soul is offline Senior Member Well Known
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    Default Where does Eyeshield fall in terms of realism? (No spoilers please)

    I was thinking of watching the series and picking up with the manga after that if I like it, but I was wondering to what degree Eyeshield makes Football defy logic.

    Think of the scale as:

    Realistic: Slam Dunk --------- Less Realistic: Hajime no Ippo ----------- Ridiculous: Prince of Tennis


    I don't really mind any type, since I loved Ippo and PoT, but I couldn't really get into Slam Dunk after a few episodes.

    So...yeah.

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    .Goku is offline Junior Member Newbie
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    em it joins PoT the rules are all there but its kinda..hmm how do i put it American football on speed.

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    Eyeshield 21 isn't really reasonable like how Agon is like a geinus at sports, but Unsui isn't. Also, there is the fact that people like the guys are training like crazy it's a wonder at how any of them are going to college

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    Slam Dunk ---------- Hajime no Ippo --- Eyeshield 21 ------- (infinity) Prince of Tennis

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    It's not realistic at all. The manga is basically just a skeleton of what real American Football is about.

    Realistic and Eyeshield 21 are polar opposites. ES21 is just as bad as Prince of Tennis if not worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newbie View Post
    Slam Dunk ---------- Hajime no Ippo --- Eyeshield 21 ------- (infinity) Prince of Tennis
    hey hey hey hey

    hajime no ippo kicks ass, best sports manga ever..... its what got me to start boxing lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by d.A. View Post
    It's not realistic at all. The manga is basically just a skeleton of what real American Football is about.

    Realistic and Eyeshield 21 are polar opposites. ES21 is just as bad as Prince of Tennis if not worse.
    No.....you need to read POT....At least in eyeshield 21, you don't have stupid crap like muga or something that allows you to see the future and double the spin and powerof the ball. Also, shots like fuji's counters and illusion shot and cool drive are IMPOSSIBLE. At least, eyeshield portrays the bare core of the football, although many players unrealistically atheletic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soulless_freak View Post
    hey hey hey hey

    hajime no ippo kicks ass, best sports manga ever..... its what got me to start boxing lol
    I was giving a gauge of realism, not how good the manga is.

    Quote Originally Posted by dkhw View Post
    No.....you need to read POT....At least in eyeshield 21, you don't have stupid crap like muga or something that allows you to see the future and double the spin and powerof the ball. Also, shots like fuji's counters and illusion shot and cool drive are IMPOSSIBLE. At least, eyeshield portrays the bare core of the football, although many players unrealistically atheletic.
    QFT. Eyeshield 21 just stretches the boundaries of reality, Prince of Tennis is purely fiction.

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    To me, Ippo and eyeshield is unrealistic and POT is a science fiction so I am not even going near that. First, Ippo. Ippo is a featherweight and anyone who watch small amount of boxing know that anyone in this weight class is skinny as hell. Yet, Ippo looks more jacked than a guy that weighs 220 pounds. Also, not many boxers, even in the higher weight classes, are that buff. Most heavyweights, to me, look fat. The punches and the boxing styles are exaggerated. No one in featherweight can throw a punch that can "lift" another boxer off his feet. And all those moves like dempsy roll are pretty unrealistic. But I am gonna stop bashing the manga there just because I actually started to like this manga because of takamaru, just a freakin' beast.

    Eyeshield 21 is unrealistic because the atheletes are off-the-charts (A guy that runs backward at 4.8 doesn't exist, a player that runs at 4.2 and benches over 300 pounds doesn't exist especially in high school). Football is strategic sport that requires much gameplan and eyeshield fails to show this and fails to show a lot of plays that are involved in eyeshield.

    only sports manga that i found remotely realistic is slam dunk, but again I am not sold on this. Why? because it's in japan. would it have been more believable if it was in US? yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkhw View Post
    No.....you need to read POT....At least in eyeshield 21, you don't have stupid crap like muga or something that allows you to see the future and double the spin and powerof the ball. Also, shots like fuji's counters and illusion shot and cool drive are IMPOSSIBLE. At least, eyeshield portrays the bare core of the football, although many players unrealistically atheletic.
    Everest Pass, A guy with reaction times a million times faster than even the fastest super computer, Spear tackle, a guy who doesn't get re-routed from his receiving route no matter what? Those aren't IMPOSSIBLE?

    Please. Those are moves too.

    I play both tennis and American football and have read both manga--they are equally unrealistic.

    Quote Originally Posted by dkhw
    The punches and the boxing styles are exaggerated. No one in featherweight can throw a punch that can "lift" another boxer off his feet. And all those moves like dempsy roll are pretty unrealistic.
    Marco Antonio Barrera, Manny Pacquiao, and Erik Morales all have lifted opponents of the same weight class. They aren't the only ones as well.

    The Dempsy Roll is a real signature move as well. Mike Tyson used it to the same effect Ippo does in that manga when he was in his prime--it's depicted with exaggeration of course, like every other sports manga, but it's not as unrealistic as some of the moves in both ES21 and POT.

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