Thread: The Crow

A thread dedicated to specific Crow-only discussions, the mysterious new force and speculatins regarding them.

What do we know about them?

- They are veryvery secret
- They are assasins
- They are spies
- They are controlled by Orders Higher-Ups
- They have some wierd spells nature of which is unknown

All of this makes me assume they are some kind of killer/spy agency that works for Order. Still, a lot of questions remain. Like - how many of them are around? From what we have seen in chapter which showed the last dialog between Cross and Allen it seems that there are more of them then exorcists at least - in that room were like 5-6 Crows, and obviously it was hardly the majority of them. Meaning, if we assume that the one who killed Cross in a Crow member, there are enough of them to elliminate all exorcists. And what we have seen from Links performance, they are pretty strong too. If Digi's hypothesis is correct, and their primary goal is to take out Noah, then it must mean that Order has more then enough resource to execute that, since number of Crow members can be really high - unlike exorcists they do not require innocence to be trained, only number of intructors is what limits them, hence a lot of great assasine can easily be created. This rises two questions (for now ;P) though - first is - why did Crow members not go with Exorcists to Japan - if their goal was to find Cross and bring him back - and assuming Order knew about Japan being Earl's nest they should have expected to meet Noahs there. Thus it would be logical to send a couple or more anti-Noah killers - Crow members there - while they can't kill akuma, since innocence is necessary for that, they can take care of Noah easily. And having exorcists cover them from Akuma would have provided a great shield and thus creating a really strong force. Such attack could have really brought trouble to Earl. Maybe even destroying several decades of his preparations for ragnarok.

Second is - why were Crow members not protecting Generals when it was discovered that Noahs are after them? Same logic applied here.

1) Why didn't any go to Japan? Hoshino didn't want to reveal them yet. =P As for plot... it was a dangerous mission. IF my hypothesis/random guess is correct, the Order can't just send out Crow whenever because they're not as easily replenished. Japan, of course, is full of akuma. It'd be very different than sneaking into a random Noah's house, where there would be far fewer akuma (servants?) and absolute knowledge that you'd find a Noah. It wasn't guaranteed that there would be Noah in Japan, or at least that their locations would be identified, that they'd appear... and, of course, it's the Noah's HQ. The Order would be at a huge disadvantage.

Well, and there's the transporation issue; how would they get there in time? Perhaps some had been dispatched... or maybe some were the sailors that died... :3

2) Again, probably the transportation issue; it's quite possible/likely that the Exorcists were already in the field. We also don't know that they weren't sent; the Noah killed... what, a hundred and fifty Order members, not all of which were Exorcists? Just because they didn't go with the Cross team (who had been dispatched, had a team of FOUR - later five - Exorcists, had no idea where they were going...) didn't meant they weren't with the others and got killed. As for why they weren't with Kanda, that team *was* in an akuma nest at the beginning where Crow would not be.

Or maybe the Order just didn't want to send any non-Exorcists on the mission for whatever reason (stealth? to prevent Exorcists from getting suspicious?). Who knows.

It really was just a random thought. =P We do know for certain that they're "Central's special combat unit" (from 166), very elite fighters, and that Komui doesn't trust Central in part because of them (what?). With the reference to 'interrogation'... that seems to imply torture, but that can't be their only role. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if they did have a role in killing Noah - or capturing them and torturing them for information. That could also apply to supporters of the Earl. However, they definitely are involved with Exorcists too, now that I think about it, and possibly restraining and killing rogue ones. After all, they were present in that flashback in 137 when Lenalee tried to run away! (No wonder she couldn't escape if they used those binding spells on her!)

Originally Posted by Digital_Eon

1) Why didn't any go to Japan? Hoshino didn't want to reveal them yet. =P As for plot... it was a dangerous mission. IF my hypothesis/random guess is correct, the Order can't just send out Crow whenever because they're not as easily replenished. Japan, of course, is full of akuma. It'd be very different than sneaking into a random Noah's house, where there would be far fewer akuma (servants?) and absolute knowledge that you'd find a Noah. It wasn't guaranteed that there would be Noah in Japan, or at least that their locations would be identified, that they'd appear... and, of course, it's the Noah's HQ. The Order would be at a huge disadvantage.

Just as there was no guarantee that Cross is there. Yet, teh presious exorcists were sent there. Almost all of those available.

I believe we already know that Crows number just might be very huge. So we can't really say that order fears to lose 10-20 of them.

Dangerous? lol, whats the reason to have great warriors take care of weak enemies? Of course its dangerous, thats exactly why best of teh best shoudl ahve been sent there. This disadvantage was not a problem when exorcists were to be sent though.

As i said, Akuma would be left to exorcists which were to escort Crow.

Well, and there's the transporation issue; how would they get there in time? Perhaps some had been dispatched... or maybe some were the sailors that died... :3

Apparently, not. They died to easily....

2) Again, probably the transportation issue; it's quite possible/likely that the Exorcists were already in the field. We also don't know that they weren't sent; the Noah killed... what, a hundred and fifty Order members, not all of which were Exorcists? Just because they didn't go with the Cross team (who had been dispatched, had a team of FOUR - later five - Exorcists, had no idea where they were going...) didn't meant they weren't with the others and got killed. As for why they weren't with Kanda, that team *was* in an akuma nest at the beginning where Crow would not be.

Order is too wealthy to not be able to buy a train ticket. Or a whole train for teh matter.

If Crow members were among those killed by Noah it would mean only one thing - they are too weak to oppose Noah. Meaning, its not their primary job.

Or maybe the Order just didn't want to send any non-Exorcists on the mission for whatever reason (stealth? to prevent Exorcists from getting suspicious?). Who knows.

Having a force and not using it is at the very least strange.

It really was just a random thought. =P We do know for certain that they're "Central's special combat unit" (from 166), very elite fighters, and that Komui doesn't trust Central in part because of them (what?). With the reference to 'interrogation'... that seems to imply torture, but that can't be their only role. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if they did have a role in killing Noah - or capturing them and torturing them for information. That could also apply to supporters of the Earl. However, they definitely are involved with Exorcists too, now that I think about it, and possibly restraining and killing rogue ones. After all, they were present in that flashback in 137 when Lenalee tried to run away! (No wonder she couldn't escape if they used those binding spells on her!)

Torture for sure. And i didn't think about taking care of run away exorcists, good thought!

Originally Posted by reinard-fox

Just as there was no guarantee that Cross is there. Yet, teh presious exorcists were sent there. Almost all of those available.

They were following Timcanpy and all known facts pointed to Cross being there - and only five Exorcists went to Japan, technically (one of which couldn't even fight by that time). I think Tiedoll dragged his team there of his own initiative.

I believe we already know that Crows number just might be very huge. So we can't really say that order fears to lose 10-20 of them.

It might, but it might not~ We might be surprised. Who knows?

Dangerous? lol, whats the reason to have great warriors take care of weak enemies? Of course its dangerous, thats exactly why best of teh best shoudl ahve been sent there. This disadvantage was not a problem when exorcists were to be sent though.

Fewer Exorcists with a known reason to be there and who knows, maybe they were more expendable. I did mention that it was probably for plot-related reasons, right? =P

Apparently, not. They died to easily....

They got hit by akuma and didn't expect to be attacked. :3 Okay, it's still very unlikely, but who knows for sure? What could a Crow have done in such a case? (Most died protecting Exorcists, right?)

Order is too wealthy to not be able to buy a train ticket. Or a whole train for teh matter.

If Crow members were among those killed by Noah it would mean only one thing - they are too weak to oppose Noah. Meaning, its not their primary job.

Takes time, though.

If there are so many Crow, though, it stands to reason that it might take more than one to kill a Noah. It takes all of an Exorcist's strength to do so, and they have special weapons designed for it! There's also a big difference between assassinating and being caught off-guard in a fight; Link got his butt kicked by a pair of Exorcists using the bare minimum in weaponry (granted, it was G, but using Link's body and weapons), which kinda sucks for him. Crow COULD be really good at sneaking around and poisoning/knifing stuff and not be able to hold up against a Noah with special abilities in an actual battle.

Having a force and not using it is at the very least strange.

It's the Order. They do weird things.

Torture for sure. And i didn't think about taking care of run away exorcists, good thought!

Which makes it suspicious that they wouldn't be involved in the Cross thing already, no? :3

OH! A bit off-topic, but I think we can assume that all the Crow members we've seen so far are male. Link's the shortest of those that we've seen (by quite a bit), and he's... what, 172cm? Not tall, but Hoshino doesn't seem to have any female characters of that height except like, Moore, I think. I wonder why...