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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolox View Post
    ^ Nah, Komui will come up with Komurin VII which will repair it in 2 seconds.
    Considering the last Komrin destroyed the Order just as badly as the level 4...

    Digi, I am stunned - your post looks really negative about DGM - what happened ? Both me and Reinard were stunned ;p
    Which part? I'm always secretly positive about DGM, even though I'll admit that Hoshino wants money and hasn't understood that readers don't want battle scenes yet.

    By the way - Is it only me or Earl is complete retard ? Sent 2 more noahs and the Arc was their. Bah - send some level 2 and they would act as good meat. If he has so many level 3 to waste, then why not go all the way ?
    Huh?

    On the topic of Noah, they weren't supposed to be in the Ark. Tiki and Road apparently wanted to have some fun, and Road sent Jasdevi there to find Allen (because of Cross. It had nothing to do with killing them, or even killing Allen for that matter). God only knows why Boric was there. As for retrieving the Egg, Lulubell was really close to doing so. She just didn't happen to be one of the smarter ones. ("Oh, what's that big white spot on the Egg? Damnit! Some bird crapped on it and now I'm going to have to clean- WHAAAAAAT." Okay, that's an exaggeration, but...)

    ...Well, maybe the Earl doesn't have too many more available Noah. Boric's dead, Jasdevi's probably wounded, Tiki may still be insane monster Tiki, and Road is about as useful in a battle as Chaoji. Even if there are supposed to be fourteen Noah, it's possible that the remaining eight wouldn't have helped.

    At this stage in DGM, level 2s are not a good way to try and stop anyone. At least with level 3s, they could cause *some* damage if they meet the right Exorcist.
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    hmm about Allen being weak i dunno.... i guess i didn't miss some kind of senzubean that healed him full so his bones and muscles are still bits and pieces and the straps of his innocence move him like a puppet, i guess thats not really the condition where his strength shows...

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    Technically, if Allen were so strong, he'd be just as powerful when the Innocence is controlling him. It's also worth noting that he's not being controlled now (and actually seems to be fine; did he just need a nap or something?). Anyway, whether a sword made of Innocence is effective or not has nothing to do with whether Allen took some injuries or not. (Being a part of his arm, it probably should, but Allen didn't seem to have any problems with his arms after getting smashed into a wall.)
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    its still a big difference if just the innocence is fighting and actual in addition to fighting it has to forcemove allens body too or a healthy allen that actually fights himself with his own strength in addition to the power of the innocence. a weapon is only as good as his user. the sharpest sword is just scrap metal when your arms are broken.

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    Wow. I haven't been at stoptazmo for so long....I'm surprised I'm still a member. ^^;

    anyways, another thing I don't understand is why Allen didn't use his crowned clown claws. For all I know, the last form with the big sword is only good for exorcising people-- isn't it much effective to use several blades that, ahem, CUTS? Well, this bias may be due to the fact that I think Allen's crowned clown claws are much cooler-looking than his sword, but I really don't see why Allen used the last form as the claws are supposed to be just as effective.

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    Allen's arms aren't broken, and he was moving on his own by chapter 153. Right now, he's acting perfectly fine and the Innocence isn't moving his body anymore.

    Using the claws... well, he actually couldn't, this time. Can you see Lenalee jumping on his fingers so that they go through the akuma? :/ If he was just fighting on his own, sure (although I think he used the sword before Lenalee got a power-up because it also acted as a kind of shield from the akuma - trying to distract the level 4 and not die rather than try and kill it), but it wouldn't have worked with Lenalee's help.
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    the broken arms scentence was just meant as an example i know allens arms arent broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohkikaze View Post
    the broken arms scentence was just meant as an example i know allens arms arent broken.
    ...Anyway, Allen seems perfectly fine now, since he was jumping around and swinging that sword without being controlled, so there's no reason it shouldn't work.
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    Unless it will only work on Noahs. I still think that intent is just as important as form for the innocence, so there could be a check there. Also Allen's sword is the first innocence that we know of that was made purely to defeat Noahs instead of the Akuma. Old argument, I know. I also still think that "Super Tiki" or "Bug Tiki" was made because of the butterflies in him maturing at a rapid rate (after loosing his Noah powers via the sword).

    Oh Digi, I said he had a bottomless stomach, I never mentioned anything about an unhinging jaw! :P

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    ..and filthy hands. Allen always had a god mode, he already proved that by destroying so many level 3 which were supposed to be really strong..supposed to. And somehow the level 4 looked more challenging than Noah (something is wrong with this picture, seriously).

    Seems Earl doesn't have many level 4 to spare - if he just sent 4 level 4, he would had the Arc in no time.

 

 
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