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    Quote Originally Posted by stained_black View Post
    Since the sword = pure noah pwning capabilities I guess it'll have some Akuma draw backs. If it was both powerful on both Akuma AND Noah, wouldn't that make Allen a tad bit overpowered?
    It didn't really pwn the Noah. XD Allen wouldn't be overpowered if the sword could take out an akuma as usual, though (physical strength is apparently his strong point - or nothing else seems to be, anyway). As he is right now, he looks kinda... weak.


    Am betting that guy has more lives than than cat in your sig as made laps around the edges of said sig...(did that make sense? xD)
    XD Johnny is immortal.

    But its cheesey! Also I think the butterfly on maria is only for cosmetic purposes.
    It's pretty! Besides, real wings would have made her look like Timcanpy. =P

    It seems that this is part of the theme in DGM, one moment a character is down people will start saying that he/she's weak. Then Hoshino will introduce some uber enemy that only the said hero/heroine can beat by a powerup or with some help. Then the people who said that the said hero/heroine is now over powered...its a vicious cycle D:
    Ugh, people are never satisfied. Of course a character is weak when s/he can't even function normally due to the loss of their weapon (which relates to a body part). That doesn't mean they're actually weak, or that they'll be weak forever, or that they deserve to be hated. Lenalee haters are just morons if that's the reason. As for being overpowered... well, I think it's more that the introduced akuma seemed too powerful originally when they're not that strong (level 3s in particular). The first level 2 seemed powerful because Allen and Kanda were morons and got tricked by it. The first level 3 seemed powerful because it neutralized Lenalee's strengths. Of course, the first level 4 seemed very powerful, but maybe ones in the future won't seem so scary after all.

    People really shouldn't say Lenalee is overpowered. She's the heroine of the series. The second-most important non-villain character. Allen is the hero, and for being "over-powered", he certainly gets smashed into walls and tossed around a lot.

    Apparently, Eshi excluded, none of the DGM characters have an effective defence. >_>;;

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    I think Allen is just suffering from a bout of "Ichigo" syndrom, he gets kicked around because the bad guy needs to appear stronger then they actually are.

    The first appearance of the level 4 left us with the impression that it was stronger then several of the Noah we have met so far, but that was likely just the element of suprise.

    and when I say General level, I mean 100%+

    We don't know if Lenlee's innocence is at that point yet, but if it isn't, she will certainly be scary when she gets there (considering her power level right now)

    Allen is already slated for being the next General(indirectly), just because of that sword, I would guess that it wasn't completely effective against Tyki BECAUSE he was a Noah, and their are still alot of Unknown elements to them.

    They may not be as skilled as the General's with their innocence (as the General's are quite experienced), but their innocence is definetly within the same power range.

    Generals are far from invincible either, one got taken out before level 3's were even introduced, and all 4 Generals were present when the levle 4 first appeared, the element of suprise was a huge advantage for something as strong as the level 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeru View Post
    I think Allen is just suffering from a bout of "Ichigo" syndrom, he gets kicked around because the bad guy needs to appear stronger then they actually are.
    Except Ichigo then pwns the bad guy. Allen doesn't seem incredibly weak, just not incredibly strong or skilled, and always in the wrong place attacking incorrectly at the wrong time.

    The first appearance of the level 4 left us with the impression that it was stronger then several of the Noah we have met so far, but that was likely just the element of suprise.
    Probably because it made Allen hit the wall with one attack, although that isn't very hard to do. I never really thought it was super strong, actually...

    We don't know if Lenlee's innocence is at that point yet, but if it isn't, she will certainly be scary when she gets there (considering her power level right now)
    Maybe she'll just get some new abilities rather than a strength upgrade. Allen, for instance, doesn't seem any stronger than before, and it's hard to tell if all of the other Generals are superior because of their basic power, or something else.

    Generals are far from invincible either, one got taken out before level 3's were even introduced, and all 4 Generals were present when the levle 4 first appeared, the element of suprise was a huge advantage for something as strong as the level 4.
    Cross seems to be invincible, but he's, well, Cross. Of course, like Noah, the Generals are still human. Besides, if there's 5 General-level Exorcists in the Order, and only nine other Exorcists... well, there can't be an incredibly large gap between the two, right...
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    I know Allen's "super" abilitys 1)the bottomless belly (he is never full!) 2)increassed damage threash-hold. If the guy has his body intact he can't die! Mwhahahaha! Good chapter to end prior a break. I agree with Digi that next will be rebuilding. As far as Allen's sword... I don't think we've seen what it really can do yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranteil View Post
    I know Allen's "super" abilitys 1)the bottomless belly (he is never full!)
    XD (Un?)fortunately, Allen seems to discriminate enough to not eat a giant fat akuma. Maybe if it was fried, though...

    2)increassed damage threash-hold. If the guy has his body intact he can't die! Mwhahahaha! Good chapter to end prior a break. I agree with Digi that next will be rebuilding.
    Allen isn't the only one. There was a scene in the Ark where Tiki tossed Lenale into a wall with his tentacles and she appeared completely uninjured afterwards... among other incidents. Pretty much everyone in the Order seems completely immortal except for the ones who've already died.

    As far as Allen's sword... I don't think we've seen what it really can do yet.
    *wink wink* Of course not~

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    well cross is badass
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    What, for making things fat? Cross is seriously over-awesomed. All the negative parts of his personality need to be shown more. >_>
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    The only thing that suprised me is that Hevlaska seems completely ok.

    Other than that, nothing special. Everyone is safe and rebuilding the HQ will take a second.

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    She got kicked in the head once, didn't she? Exorcists have been fine from worse (like Allen. Amazing recovery, there... or maybe he was just being a wuss before and his wounds weren't that bad in the first place).

    Rebuilding the HQ will take weeks or months that Hoshino won't show in the manga. She's not that bad with using time or having characters make miraculous recoveries from serious injuries.
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    ^ Nah, Komui will come up with Komurin VII which will repair it in 2 seconds.

    Digi, I am stunned - your post looks really negative about DGM - what happened ? Both me and Reinard were stunned ;p

    By the way - Is it only me or Earl is complete retard ? Sent 2 more noahs and the Arc was their. Bah - send some level 2 and they would act as good meat. If he has so many level 3 to waste, then why not go all the way ?

 

 
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