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    From the manga characters or the readers? xD As for the first: well, duh, they're guys and don't want to believe a girl is stronger than them. If it's the readers... they don't want to believe a girl can be such a strong character in a shounen manga either. =P
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    For the characters. And I'm really hoping d.gray-man doesn't pull a mankin and have to stop because of popularity. I remember you mentioning the Table of Contents a while ago. But shonen jump is for younger boys. Dgm would be so much more awesome as a seinen though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mystic_guard_sinoel View Post
    For the characters.
    Well, it's not like they shouldn't already have insecurities about their manliness... =P

    And I'm really hoping d.gray-man doesn't pull a mankin and have to stop because of popularity. I remember you mentioning the Table of Contents a while ago. But shonen jump is for younger boys. Dgm would be so much more awesome as a seinen though.
    I agree. Well, it isn't the worst of the long-running series just yet, and I doubt Hoshino would toss off a crappy ending if it was forced to (I'd rather have a cut-off point where it could potentially continue than that). I wonder if it might move to another magazine if it keeps dropping in popularity instead, though? It's not incredibly uncommon, and if 15 pages a week seems to be Hoshino's limit... Well, DGM's volume sales are excellent. Maybe being moved to SQ would be a good thing. [size=1](If it ever moves to Ultra Jump, I'll die. Seriously. o_o;; That would be...)

    ...Not likely, though, I think. Maybe once this arc ends and we get back to plot...
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    Digi.
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    I don't think you'll get them from Digi and I though (I could be wrong with Digi), because we have been waiting for this and anticipating it for so long. Besides, Lenalee could kick arse and take names before, and the only reason she wasn't able to in the Ark was because of over synch whith the boots on the trip to Japan. About this deus ex machina: at least with Allen this type of thing has happened before so it is established.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranteil View Post
    I don't think you'll get them from Digi and I though (I could be wrong with Digi), because we have been waiting for this and anticipating it for so long.
    Huh? o_o?

    Besides, Lenalee could kick arse and take names before, and the only reason she wasn't able to in the Ark was because of over synch whith the boots on the trip to Japan.
    I think the relative lack of fighting-Lenalee (confined to volume 3 and then the Eshi battle, where she was made to appear weaker than she was by fighting like a Pikachu against a Golem- I mean, a fight that exploited her weaknesses) is because WSJ readers would feel insecure about their manliness if a heroine was so strong. I mean, come on, how many heroines in shounen manga are as important and powerful as the guys, and don't make a huge deal about being a girl and a romantic interest? =D Lenalee's just that cool~

    About this deus ex machina: at least with Allen this type of thing has happened before so it is established.
    It isn't really a deus ex machina. It's an action series power-up. Those are exceptions to any literary rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    It isn't really a deus ex machina. It's an action series power-up. Those are exceptions to any literary rules.
    Berserker Armor, baby!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terasiel View Post
    Berserker Armor, baby!
    I prefer to pretend that this certain item doesn't exist. It's shameful to the manga.

    On the seinen note, though, I can't see DGM ever really being seinen... and don't really want to. DGM doesn't need huge amounts of blood, guts (although it does have those two, and probably always will) and sex to be totally awesome, and as it is right now, it's fine as a shounen. Hoshino could probably write a decent seinen in the future, but for now... I like it the way it is. Let any sex be off-screen like in Shaman King.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    On the seinen note, though, I can't see DGM ever really being seinen... and don't really want to. DGM doesn't need huge amounts of blood, guts (although it does have those two, and probably always will) and sex to be totally awesome, and as it is right now, it's fine as a shounen. Hoshino could probably write a decent seinen in the future, but for now... I like it the way it is. Let any sex be off-screen like in Shaman King.
    Forgive me if this is a bit whiny, but did I just wake up in a world in which nudity, sex, and visable splatter-gore was required to make something Seinen?

    Keep in mind that Trigun, Chobits, xxxHolic, Liar Game, and Oh My Goddess! are Seinen. Oh and don't forget Shin Chan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terasiel View Post
    Forgive me if this is a bit whiny, but did I just wake up in a world in which nudity, sex, and visable splatter-gore was required to make something Seinen?

    Keep in mind that Trigun, Chobits, xxxHolic, Liar Game, and Oh My Goddess! are Seinen. Oh and don't forget Shin Chan.
    Well, what would DGM need to become a seinen rather than what it is right now (apparently, a shounen)? I suppose Hoshino could crank up the violence level a little, although I think our poor suffering protagonists are traumatized enough. Actually, if the fight scenes were shortened and the series was a little darker, it probably could have made it in a seinen magazine from the beginning, but it wasn't, so...

    Shin Chan? And are we going to be introduced to Road&! next, with our darling little protagonist showing us her mysterious thoughts and wisdom while stealing candy from small(er) children and torturing whoever she feels like? =P
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