View Poll Results: Will Crowley, Lavi and Kanda get a power-up after they solve thier current problems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    Very likely, since he hasn't had problems with it... and Allen and Lenalee both had rates that high, so it can't be too rare.
    And this is near the rate of Allen who is the same type.

    It was crumbling in China, when Lenalee noticed and grabbed it... that was before Suman showed up. Anyway, if Tiki had attacked to destroy Lavi's Innocence, it would have been gone by the time Cross showed up. From what we've seen of Noahs destroying Innocence, the attack doesn't just weaken Innocence to allow easy destruction by any means; it actually destroys the Innocence. Since Lavi's broke when Allen tried to grab it (and it couldn't stand the pressure), it probably wasn't attacked that way.
    Mmm, true. Then he'll have to recieve power up some other way then changing type of innocence.

    Who knows. Lavi actually said that he was waiting for the scientists to restore his Innocence back at the Order - they were just too busy studying the Ark.
    This itself soundas strange - considering horrifying lack of forces in Order.

    Then there probably is some way to do so. I wonder what is is - maybe Hevlaska is going to help?

    ...I meant that no other Innocence (besides Allen's) evolved? Um. Lavi wasn't the only one to conclude that Lenalee may have the Heart, though...
    Of course, the problem is which facts did this people base their theories on.

    Yes, absolutely, but that's Allen's Innocence.... and I don't see how Lavi and Kanda could have parasitic-Innocences with the forms they've already taken.
    I meant not hand turning into sword, but a sword growing form the hand. Pretty much like Kimimaro from Naruto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    And this is near the rate of Allen who is the same type.
    83%, yeah. Lenalee's was higher, but she had been training for many years. No one commented on that being unusual, either.

    Mmm, true. Then he'll have to recieve power up some other way then changing type of innocence.
    Lavi has a number of undiscovered seals, though. He has the potential for more attacks; he just hasn't used them yet.

    This itself soundas strange - considering horrifying lack of forces in Order.

    Then there probably is some way to do so. I wonder what is is - maybe Hevlaska is going to help?
    The Egg and Ark (it was the Egg, actually -_-;; I mistyped that) were new at the time. Besides, it had probably only been around for a few days. I'm sure they were planning to get to it soon, but...

    Of course, the problem is which facts did this people base their theories on.
    From seeing the crystal that Lenalee's Innocence made. The Earl even seems to think that.

    I meant not hand turning into sword, but a sword growing form the hand. Pretty much like Kimimaro from Naruto.
    Oh. That still seems too much like Allen's Innocence, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    Lavi has a number of undiscovered seals, though. He has the potential for more attacks; he just hasn't used them yet.
    Perhaps those seals require higher rates of synchronization? I'm talking about this all the time because Hoshino's system of power ups seems to roll around this rate - how much user is compatible with his innocence.

    The Egg and Ark (it was the Egg, actually -_-;; I mistyped that) were new at the time. Besides, it had probably only been around for a few days. I'm sure they were planning to get to it soon, but...
    So they were too curious to hold on. It may be so, why not. Or they were not expecting Earl to strike right after the battle ended.

    From seeing the crystal that Lenalee's Innocence made. The Earl even seems to think that.
    Exactly. Innocence behaving autonomously is a big deal, even if it is parasytic one. Although in Allens case it may easily be his other powers monipulating his body on teir own - because they did not want the container that is bearing the to be destroyed.

    Oh. That still seems too much like Allen's Innocence, though.
    No, the form of a sword will be totally differebt - it's the katana after all! And it will be much cooler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    Perhaps those seals require higher rates of synchronization? I'm talking about this all the time because Hoshino's system of power ups seems to roll around this rate - how much user is compatible with his innocence.
    Possibly. It could be that Lavi just needs a reminder of what exists (like Bookman telling him about that seal on the boat).

    So they were too curious to hold on. It may be so, why not. Or they were not expecting Earl to strike right after the battle ended.
    Well, yeah, they are only human. Besides, with four Generals in the Order, two average Exorcists won't really be missed except in an extreme circumstance (even now, no one wishes Kanda and Lavi were there to help).

    Exactly. Innocence behaving autonomously is a big deal, even if it is parasytic one. Although in Allens case it may easily be his other powers monipulating his body on teir own - because they did not want the container that is bearing the to be destroyed.
    We haven't seen anything else besides Allen's arm move, but that could have been the result of another power. I don't know if the same could be said for the shard of Innocence in his heart, though.

    No, the form of a sword will be totally differebt - it's the katana after all! And it will be much cooler!
    How can it be cooler than Allen pulling his arm off and turning it into a GIANT sword? ...Besides, Kanda himself isn't that cool. =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    Possibly. It could be that Lavi just needs a reminder of what exists (like Bookman telling him about that seal on the boat).
    Maybe. I'm hoping for something more significant though.

    Well, yeah, they are only human. Besides, with four Generals in the Order, two average Exorcists won't really be missed except in an extreme circumstance (even now, no one wishes Kanda and Lavi were there to help).
    True. But Kanda was useful! He saved such an important character!

    We haven't seen anything else besides Allen's arm move, but that could have been the result of another power. I don't know if the same could be said for the shard of Innocence in his heart, though.
    This two incidents may have the same couse, or may not. We have no 100% evidence to back up either of the versions.

    How can it be cooler than Allen pulling his arm off and turning it into a GIANT sword? ...Besides, Kanda himself isn't that cool. =P
    It's just dreadful...

    Many fangirls think otherwise. Although I'm not one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    Maybe. I'm hoping for something more significant though.
    Some of his seals could be awesome. Maybe there's a combination seal?


    True. But Kanda was useful! He saved such an important character!
    Oh, yes, what would we have done if the ceiling fell on Chaoji?

    This two incidents may have the same couse, or may not. We have no 100% evidence to back up either of the versions.
    At the very least, though, it does seem likely that Allen's Innocence does act on its own and possibly without any other things becoming involved.

    It's just dreadful...

    Many fangirls think otherwise. Although I'm not one of them.
    Dreadful? Allen's giant sword-arm? Well, if you're going to have a guy with a sword in a manga, at least make it a really big one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    Some of his seals could be awesome. Maybe there's a combination seal?
    And what will those combination seals produce?

    Oh, yes, what would we have done if the ceiling fell on Chaoji?
    He would have coverd Chaoiji with himself, shouting curses in a very manky way.

    At the very least, though, it does seem likely that Allen's Innocence does act on its own and possibly without any other things becoming involved.
    We can only say that some inner factors make Innocence move. Whatever this factors are is unknown untill Hoshino explains in it details.

    Dreadful? Allen's giant sword-arm? Well, if you're going to have a guy with a sword in a manga, at least make it a really big one.
    Dreadful is a process of taking of your arm and turing it into (i admit) cool looking sword. Oh, and for me Ichimaru looks way more cool than Ichigo with his shovel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    And what will those combination seals produce?
    Some really cool attacks?

    He would have coverd Chaoiji with himself, shouting curses in a very manky way.
    Kanda? I meant what if Kanda had not been important...

    We can only say that some inner factors make Innocence move. Whatever this factors are is unknown untill Hoshino explains in it details.
    Innocence seems to have some kind of consciousness; it can tell when its user is "betraying" its will, so...

    Dreadful is a process of taking of your arm and turing it into (i admit) cool looking sword. Oh, and for me Ichimaru looks way more cool than Ichigo with his shovel.
    Aww, but I think it looks cool. As for the big sword thing - what about Inuyasha? :3 Phallic symbol ftw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    Some really cool attacks?
    Like combining water and fire?

    Kanda? I meant what if Kanda had not been important...
    Chaoji can't die! If he passes away in such a maner there would have been no point in giving him innocence. I'm sure Hoshino is thinking about giving him some important role in the future. Maybe it will be oposing Allen with the power of his Innocence. I wouldn't be surprised if we'll witness his power ups in the near future.

    Innocence seems to have some kind of consciousness; it can tell when its user is "betraying" its will, so...
    The one who created Innocence is hardly forgiving, considering this program you are talking about. I do not think that it is contiousness; it should be some mechanism, that is inserted in innocence in order to punish those who are not compatible and the once who betray god.

    Aww, but I think it looks cool. As for the big sword thing - what about Inuyasha? :3
    I never read Inuyasha. It's cool, but Kanda has potential to look cooler!

    Phallic symbol ftw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    It benefits the Order to have two more Exorcists, and the Bookman pair to be able to write down history, so why not?
    Because by "benefitting the Order", they're no longer neutral. The whole point is that they are not supposed to interfere, just observe. But they're out there actively supporting one side in the war - consistently. That negates the very purpose of their being there. Bookman said they were only on that side "by chance", but quite clearly, that's just not true. There's no way they could be on the other side.

    What if Lavi or Bookman happens to land the fatal blow, or be a vital piece to a plan set out by the Order, which results in them winning, although they would have lost had Bookman and Lavi not been there? Obviously they want the Order to win, and will do everything they can to ensure that happens. Because if the Order loses, then they will be killed themselves. By being allied with one side, and having to be allied with that side, they're no longer neutral.

 

 
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