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    Default The random theory concerning Akuma Creation System

    This is kinda a random idea, but it fits so well in our Noah/Exorcists Reversed theory so I thought I should post it to see what you all think about it.

    My idea is that Earl, by creating Akuma, creates an opportunity to expiate thier sins for two people - one, who has summoned Akuma and the one who is turned into Akuma.

    The base for it is once again Christianity - after all, Order is a Chatholic organisation and is figthing under the flag of God. However, if we take our N/ER theory, everything becomes reversed and Noah appear to be the once truly fighting for God. So, the idea is the following: in DGM universe the God, despite his wish to purify humanity in the fires of Apocalypsis, still loves his creations and pities them. So he wants as much of them as possible to live an eternal life in heaven. In Christianity the best way to get rid of your sins (aside from buying an indulgence) is to suffer either in your life or in hell. However, even this doesn't guarantee that after the Last Judgment the place in heaven will be reserved for you. In order to save as much of his sheep as possible, God created Akuma system, that makes two people suffer from a single act of summon and through that purifies them, making the road to heaven clear for both. The way it works is simple - summoner, driven by despair and love, calls for a soul which creates an Akuma. Akuma kills its summoner, destroying his sins - for there is nothing more terrible then being killed by someone you love. Then, for the whole existence of said Akuma the soul inside it suffers, which expiates this souls sins. The whole system involes killing humans who have nothing to do with this akuma and it's summoner as well; I'm not sure if thier sins are purified or not.

    What do you think about it?
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    Reinard, you keep coming up with amazing theories. <3 It sounds very plausible to me.

    Akuma seem to kill fewer humans than would be expected with their numbers and locations; there are relatively few cases that we've seen of akuma attacking and eating villagers completely unprovoked. There didn't seem to be any suspicious murders in the first chapter. There were what, nine? akuma in Krory's town, and yet the people were concerned with Krory killing the "villagers" - not other random deaths. The one case of an akuma destroying a town was in the second Reverse novel, and that akuma soul had a grudge against the townspeople and just wanted them dead. Perhaps the amount of people an akuma needs to kill to evolve is actually a fairly low number (considering all the high levels in Japan)?

    Maybe it's also a sign of God's (supposed - for Jesus' God, anyway) forgiveness that the akuma still retain consciousnesses and can feel emotion - they suffer, but they can still feel happiness and love just as the people who gave their lives for the akuma souls did so out of love (er, kinda). They suffer, but they still retain the basic aspects of humanity.
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    True, Akuma do not seem to kill as much as they could be expected to. For example, in the very first arc, it killed only travelers and avoided townspeople. Which makes zero sense as it need to kill a lot to evolve - so instead it sould have eleminated the town and become 2lvl and 3lvl faster, instead of just sneaking around. Same with your examply about Crowleys village - the only really brutal person there was Crowley himself, who is supposed to be counted as a good guy.

    Maybe you are right and it does not need that much to evolve. But it still doesn't explain why are they hiding themselves and avoid massacring villages and towns, despite it being the most natural and beneficial stratagy.

    Maybe it is because they can not kill just everyone - only those who deserves such a death that will (maybe) purify his sins? Unless it goes on a killing spree if innocence (including the one which exorcists are bearing) is around.

    I think so too - and retaining basic aspects of humanity makes them suffer the most, which is apparently a good thing (according to Christianity).

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    The travellers were attacked because they entered the church, like the police officers; it seems more that an akuma attacks if its home is intruded upon. They have a remarkable sense of self-control, though - obviously Jean never found out about Leo until Allen came to their town, and Eliade never attacked anyone either. They don't seem as murderous as the storyline has implied at all. Most akuma-related deaths/attacks we've seen are either the creation of one, or when the akuma itself is confronted (again, like in chapter 1, or by Order members).

    Maybe that means that akuma aren't really as bad as they're made out to be. Only Allen would really be justified in killing them, then, and by this theory he'd be going against God.
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    Yeah, this is how it seems to be.

    Although it may be that Hoshino really wanted Akuma to be horrible murderous creatures, but for some reason did not succed in showing thier true nature.

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    I'm sure she could have gone the Claymore route and had rumours of random deaths and the like in towns if she really wanted to show them as such; it wouldn't take a lot of writing/drawing to add some of that. Besides, the akuma really have come off as far less than murderous - ugly, yes, but very pitiful (and not even in the sympathetic way - a lot of them seem very dorky).
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    They do look pitiful for us thanks to Allen, who explained about a trapping of a soul and who showed us its' suffering inside Akuma. Nobody else beside him seems to pity them.

    Maybe she just didn't think of making it the same as it was done in Claymore? Although it was really an easy to do.

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    Sorry, I will be honest - I see no connections. As much as I understand "kill the sin" thing, how does "going against the god" makes you purify your sins ?

    Since by trying to bring someone back to life, your going against god . Also the last judgement thingy...I can see any connections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolox
    Sorry, I will be honest - I see no connections.
    Thanks, its' actually a good thing. Not that you see no connections, but that you are honest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kolox
    As much as I understand "kill the sin" thing, how does "going against the god" makes you purify your sins ?

    Since by trying to bring someone back to life, your going against god .
    In any religion whatever God does it is considered a good thing - simply because God cannot commit a sin. Assuming that Earl works for God and by Orders of God makes human into Akuma there is nothing wrong with reviving people - as long as you do so under Gods will. Jesus was revived and noone complained, right?

    Akuma can be seen here as some "sins purifying machines". Those who die by its' hands recieve forgiveness from God. So neither Akuma nor summores are going against God. Remeber, Earl called the god who Order worship "the false god". So those who curse the official church god are cursing a false god and those who summon Akuma are longing for true God.

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    Not in every - Christianity made God look merciful - but remember that God from old testament, the one Jews understand, was no where near "Good". They were praying to him because they were scared of his wrath. Look at the whole Hiobe thing or Adam and Eve thing.

    If your theory is true, then Hoshino presents it's extremely badly - as Akuma trap the souls of both people inside, they can't get neither to heaven or hell and they end up in eternal limbo until some exorcist comes and purify them.

    Also I am a little reluctant to call anything "Sin puryfying machine" which goes around killing people - unless you want to really represent is as great beast of Last Judgment, the monster of imperfection (since number 6 means imperfect and any number repeated 3 times means infinity - so 666 means infinite imperfection and 777 means god). But the last Judgment was a little more complex than that, so if there is connection, it's just that much.

    Considering how many polytheistic religions there is, even in Egypt there were wars between "Which god is the true one?". At least Greeks and Romans weren't so religious...saying "your god is false" is what any psycho would say..

 

 
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