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    n.n) I think the next chapter will see Allen get slapped around and then the Generals will help him.. And if Reever and Bak are dead then it can cause lots of trouble for the Exorcists because those 2 are very influential in the Black Order (well Bak is the head of Asia and he's the second in intellect in the Black Order and Reever is in charge of the Science department)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Digi
    Unlike most rival characters in manga, Kanda really doesn't seem to care at all about Allen. He's never saved Allen and has even said he won't do that. If Lenalee doesn't confront Kanda about this and make him help Allen...

    (Talk about yaoi like it's naturally in the manga and stuff like that. General lack of logic and thought whatsoever.)
    I do not think that they are rivals - it is not like they are competing in any way.

    Oh, I can recall seeing talking to people like that. And reading some of their fanfic stuff. Usually thats pretty hilarious (if you do not take it seriously).

    Quote Originally Posted by M_green
    Back to topic, what do you think will happen next, will the fight continue and will Johnny die. Fight most likely to continue, though. the survivor probably continue to survive (somehow).
    Johnny just has to die, considering an the total square of wounds he has. The fight will continue of couse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lazaj
    n.n) I think the next chapter will see Allen get slapped around and then the Generals will help him.. And if Reever and Bak are dead then it can cause lots of trouble for the Exorcists because those 2 are very influential in the Black Order (well Bak is the head of Asia and he's the second in intellect in the Black Order and Reever is in charge of the Science department)

    p.s: xD I've been lurking here for a while and I thought why not post xD So, hello everyone (^.^)/)
    Hello and welcome! Good thing that you decided to come out from the shadows. Hope you'll enjoy spending your time here.

    Taking into account that Allen is tired after this battle, I can see him not being able to kill this Akuma right away; although his defeat still seems rather impossible, as it will mean that 4lvl is stronger then Tyky was before losing his mind.

    I actually will be happy if Bak and Reever were to die - not because I'm soooo cruel, but because we still haven't seen anyone important pass away. And thats also the reason for me to not belive that Hoshino has killed them - they are probably just unconsious.

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    After so many chapter of fighting, i was like "hey johnny, go ahead and die already" . I'm starting to think he was use to lengthen the fighting scene, which is starting to get duller every moment it continues.

    If Lv4 akuma was stronger than conscience-tyki, then Allen probably would be damned by it. Allen had a long fight, he probably fatigue by now and I don't think he can win against a lvl4 akuma.

    An important person (like Bak or Reever or both of them) death would really bring the plot into a new stage of development, I'll miss them for sure and if that happen i'll crying *sob* T_T *sob* (just kidding lol )

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    Well if Reever and Bak would die the Order will have some major disadvantages, but the story will be more interesting.. more casualties for the Order, more despair.. It would really bring up some interesting storyline
    The Lvl 4 has to be stronger because Lenalee was defeated by Eshi and he was lvl 3. Allen had some disadvantages with Thread. The Noah are stronger then a normal Exorcist but are more on equal grounds with a General (Klaud xD is the best though!)
    And we don't know what a lvl4 can do, though it's interesting to draw I think it's ugly xD. Hoshino could at least make it look somewhat prettier. But, maybe they can have distinctive traits like Eshi, Thread and those 3 posers you see in the Anime.

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    @ M_green: Well, Allen is not that exhausted. I doubt he'll be even injured by it, although I admit it may be possible if he was careless.

    Exactly, that will be sad, but i still welcome it.

    @ Lazaj: I wonder if you can call a battle where you've defeated an enemy a lost battle. Its' ability can be almost anything, but I'm sure it'll be a more developed version of 3lvl's attacks.

    Well, they are supposed to be ugly, the represent human sins and suffering after all.

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    @ lazaj:
    I don't think there would be so much disadvantage, 'cause whether Bak and Reever don't seem to give much contribution other than talking and doing some research which don't even put them in advantageous in the first place. It true they help with the character development but that roles seem to be slowly fading. The exorcist action is the one that bring much effect on the Order.
    Lenalee isn't as strong as Allen, so it is obvious she'll lose to Eshi (somehow she win). And I don't think Allen is a normal exorcist level anymore. He probably can be promoted to General status right away.
    Anyway, seeing the condition now, he probably lose to a lvl4 akuma. Allen was disadvantageous against Thread because his clown crown haven't been awoken.

    @ reinard-fox:
    But who knows what will happens.
    If that is human sins (or is it sorrow) then I have to accept the hard fact that they are damn ugly. Lvl 4 is so ugly. I expected so much better looking. The evolution prove that it would better. That is just my opinion.

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    Allen calls everyone his "nakama", as does Lenalee. Really, Allen was like "OMG MUST SAVE CHAOJI" when he'd known the guy for... what, three hours, and the sailor hates him?

    Johnny will probably survive, as it just seems kind of pointless to kill him now after all this. Besides, he has to suffer even more for being the cause of his colleagues' deaths. (And remember what happens to people who suffer from the deaths of others?)

    The Lenalee vs. Eshi thing shouldn't be counted as a measure of strength, as I've been saying. Lenalee didn't get knocked around because she didn't have the power to defeat Eshi, but because its power prevented her from attacking. Had any other Exorcist fought that akuma, they probably would have been able to win, and it's the same with Lenalee against another level 3. Hoshino probably just wanted to show how powerful level 3s were (although... they aren't.) Level 4s probably could defeat a normal Exorcist, and Allen is Allen, so of course he won't be able to scratch it until the other Generals show up.

    (And Thread - Allen pwned Thread. He got beaten up when he didn't have Innocence at all and was running around punching it or whatever.)

    Reever and Bak are too important to the plot to have such a boring and understated death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M_green
    But who knows what will happens.
    If that is human sins (or is it sorrow) then I have to accept the hard fact that they are damn ugly. Lvl 4 is so ugly. I expected so much better looking. The evolution prove that it would better. That is just my opinion.
    Of course, everything is up to Hoshino. Including Akuma's appearence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Digi
    (And remember what happens to people who suffer from the deaths of others?)
    NO. Just no. Jesus, not HIM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Digi
    Reever and Bak are too important to the plot to have such a boring and understated death.
    Well, no, I do not think so. While, as Green has pointed out, they triggered charater development of protagonists in the past, there is no guarantee that they'll do so infuture as well - they are the type of characters that are neither strong protagonists neither powerful anthagosnists - the are near the main plot, never entering it for too long, helping characters improve a bit while not having thier own separated and important story. They may be killed off easily, and others can take ther place in triggering protagonists development. So I do not think that thier death will damage the plot anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    NO. Just no. Jesus, not HIM.
    ...? You wouldn't want to see that happen to Johnny?

    Well, no, I do not think so. While, as Green has pointed out, they triggered charater development of protagonists in the past, there is no guarantee that they'll do so infuture as well - they are the type of characters that are neither strong protagonists neither powerful anthagosnists - the are near the main plot, never entering it for too long, helping characters improve a bit while not having thier own separated and important story. They may be killed off easily, and others can take ther place in triggering protagonists development. So I do not think that thier death will damage the plot anyhow.
    I'm not saying that they can't die because they're too important to the plot - of course they can die. There just wasn't enough drama in that scene to make me think they're dead. Other semi-important characters in DGM have died with more drama and they didn't even have profile pages! =P To have small panels showing each of their faces yet for those two to be basically equal to the anonymous staff in every way... it just doesn't seem right.
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    ...? You wouldn't want to see that happen to Johnny?
    You'd be surprised, but no.

    I'm not saying that they can't die because they're too important to the plot - of course they can die. There just wasn't enough drama in that scene to make me think they're dead. Other semi-important characters in DGM have died with more drama and they didn't even have profile pages! =P To have small panels showing each of their faces yet for those two to be basically equal to the anonymous staff in every way... it just doesn't seem right.
    Thats true. Anyways, they are most likely still alife, unfortunately

 

 
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