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    It's much wiser to lure all those exorcists out of HQ by attacking some huge cities (like London, Barcelona, Madrid, Berlin) in Europe with the army of 1lvl Akuma so that those exorcists will go to save those cities, and then Attack HQ by himself using the Arc. And YAY, he won. Exorcists without higher ups, scientists, informators and all that are worthless.

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    The Order isn't stupid either, though; that would obviously be a distraction and I don't think the Order would fall for that trap. He did lure everyone out by attacking the Generals (although possibly intentionally) and would have succeeded in greatly reducing the number of Exorcists had the Ark plan succeeded. And right now, we have a level 4 running around and planning to kill everyone, so...
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    Why wouldn't they sent exorcists to protect people? It their duty.

    Right, attacking generals is another variation of the same tactics. However, even when Order had noone powerfuol inside, he didn't attack. Why?

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    If it was obvious that the attacks were a trap, or if it would risk too many Exorcists, I doubt the Order would send anyone - particularly if Innocence wasn't involved.

    Two Generals made it back to the Order in a relatively short period of time (by volume 7 or 8?), and the Earl's plans would only have begun at that time. He chose to focus on the Exorcists in Japan, which would have succeeded in drastically reducing the Order's numbers (and possibly even destroying the Heart) had everything gone according to plan. Even the Exorcists couldn't have predicted the reactions of Allen's and Lenalee's Innocences, after all.
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    They can't let the enemy to massacre several millions of innocent human. If the do, whats the point of this whole organisation? And they did send all the exorcists when Generals needed defence.

    Earl didn't need that much time to go into HQ using the Ark, kill Hevlaska, destroy all the innocence she protects and kill higher ups. He could have done it while Exorcists were still on the ship or in China. It took them more then two weeks to get to Japan after all.

    You are right, even teh way Earl planned everything he has almost succeded in capturing heart and killing Allen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    They can't let the enemy to massacre several millions of innocent human. If the do, whats the point of this whole organisation? And they did send all the exorcists when Generals needed defence.
    Generals are important Exorcists with many pieces of Innocence in their possession - and Yeegar was apparently tortured, not just killed. Losing a General is very bad news for the Order. However, we don't know if the Order really does want to save all those humans, or...

    Earl didn't need that much time to go into HQ using the Ark, kill Hevlaska, destroy all the innocence she protects and kill higher ups. He could have done it while Exorcists were still on the ship or in China. It took them more then two weeks to get to Japan after all.
    It's been less than two months since the Rewinding Town arc. In that time, the Earl's first priority was going after the Heart (the Generals) as that would make life very easy for him and his friends. The Earl was apparently still making preparations when everyone was in Japan; changing to a new Ark was best done before he launches powerful attacks around the world. It's only been a few days since the Black Ark was created.
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    Generals are important Exorcists with many pieces of Innocence in their possession - and Yeegar was apparently tortured, not just killed. Losing a General is very bad news for the Order. However, we don't know if the Order really does want to save all those humans, or...
    Or?

    It's been less than two months since the Rewinding Town arc. In that time, the Earl's first priority was going after the Heart (the Generals) as that would make life very easy for him and his friends. The Earl was apparently still making preparations when everyone was in Japan; changing to a new Ark was best done before he launches powerful attacks around the world. It's only been a few days since the Black Ark was created.
    Are you saying that Earl couldn't move from Japan to HQ in a second because Black Arc was not ready? If so, then it is incorrect - while White Arc couldn't be moved, it still works, meaning it could transfer Earl to HQ. Nothing prevented him from attacking HQ and all the generals simultaneously, as he had enough forces to execute such a plan.

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    ...or if they have other motives for fighting the Earl.

    Yes, the Earl obviously could move to the HQ with the immovable white Ark; however, I think he wanted to have everything set up perfectly before attacking. The Earl already had the advantage by waiting so long to make a move; he has armies of high-level akuma, and all but one of his Noah seem to be alive (not counting that fourteenth). He doesn't need to hurry and attack the Order, because they haven't - and still aren't - posing a significant threat to him (yes, Allen stole the Egg, but aside from that). With the exception of some of the Ark battles, we've never seen Exorcists have a clear advantage over Noah, and Lulu was only forced to retreat from the Generals because of the Egg, not because she was in danger herself. With the Noah numbers nearly equal to that of Exorcists (12 vs. 14, with two Exorcists completely unable to fight at the moment and two who probably can't), and then with the Earl's army of akuma... well, it's not looking very good for the Order. So why would the Earl risk losing too many forces unnecessarily by attacking earlier when waiting will produce a better outcome for him?
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    Like? Coz the don't like his hat?

    Well, you are basically saying the same thing as me - Earl did not attack because Order is not dangerous at all.

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    They see his rabbit ears as offensive to God. :3

    Oh, okay, then we are saying the same thing, I guess. I wouldn't even count this as a real attack on the Order; it was just a mission for one Noah to find and reclaim the Egg. The level 4 was probably random and unexpected (maybe it was sent with Lulu just in case it evolved, but its evolution wasn't part of the plan).
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