Thread: The Influence of Jesus on D.Gray-Man

Originally Posted by reinard-fox

This is enough only if we are searching for similarities of characeters. The n we can say - oh the are alike - case closed. But if we want to try to base our predictions on plot similarities, that won't be quite enough.

I suppose we'll just have to read more of D.Gray-Man until things are revealed and events happen. Since parts of DGM are clearly not based on that legend, we have original plot to read, too~

Unless he really goes to search for compatible people himself I do not see any connection between him becoming General and bond with Jesus. He does not need the title to do what Jesus did; what's required is a certain type of character and ability to influence and change people around him. That he already possesses.

Then maybe he will go out and find compatible people at some point. They'd end up being his students...

If that certain someone was passionately opposing my decisions on teh battlefield while doubting my ability and my right to do my job adn then was running around throwing gloomy glances at my I would suspect something. Or at least expect something to happen.

So far, we haven't seen any signs of Allen being concerned about Chaoji. It did seem like everything had been forgotten after Tiki transformed, but Chaoji clearly proved that he still doesn't like Allen. I can see almost anyone else being concerned if they were in the same position, but the others have darker characters, and (except for Kanda), aren't as naive.

As i see it this decision of betrayal for the sake of his friend's wish and for the sake of chaneging history will actually contradict his Bookman self - becasue he was supposed to step aside and record, not interfer and change the flow of history.

Lavi's interference is bound to cause him serious guilt because of what he did, though. It may lead to his determination to be a Bookman without attachment to people, and who only cares about his responsibility to writing down history - a kind of suicide, in a way, since it changes Lavi's character entirely and prevents him from being friends with the others.

In this case parrallel becomes real. The question is if Hoshino is going to use it or not.

I really hope so. Komui is too awesome not to have as many serious roles as possible.

Originally Posted by Digital_Eon

I suppose we'll just have to read more of D.Gray-Man until things are revealed and events happen. Since parts of DGM are clearly not based on that legend, we have original plot to read, too~[

Which is good since stories that are easy to predict can't be interesting to read.

Then maybe he will go out and find compatible people at some point. They'd end up being his students...

IN this case it will be a loooong 200+chapters trip. I do not want to see that.

So far, we haven't seen any signs of Allen being concerned about Chaoji. It did seem like everything had been forgotten after Tiki transformed, but Chaoji clearly proved that he still doesn't like Allen. I can see almost anyone else being concerned if they were in the same position, but the others have darker characters, and (except for Kanda), aren't as naive.

Yeah, he doesn't show too much concern, mostly because his inner Noah it troubling him. So I have to agree, he'll probably stay oblivious till the moment of betrayal.

Lavi's interference is bound to cause him serious guilt because of what he did, though. It may lead to his determination to be a Bookman without attachment to people, and who only cares about his responsibility to writing down history - a kind of suicide, in a way, since it changes Lavi's character entirely and prevents him from being friends with the others.

Oh, yes, if it is turned this way, it might lead to him becoming Bookman. I never thought about this possibility.

I really hope so. Komui is too awesome not to have as many serious roles as possible.

Yeah~~~~

Originally Posted by reinard-fox

IN this case it will be a loooong 200+chapters trip. I do not want to see that.

Timeskip! Months pass in only a single chapter!

Yeah, he doesn't show too much concern, mostly because his inner Noah it troubling him. So I have to agree, he'll probably stay oblivious till the moment of betrayal.

Until the moment that Link and the others come for him, anyway. Awww, he'd be so hurt...

Oh, yes, if it is turned this way, it might lead to him becoming Bookman. I never thought about this possibility.

I'd be interested in seeing if Lavi stays as a Bookman permanently - that is, he runs off and never reconciles with his friends - or if everyone fixes him by the very end of the story and we have a happy ending. Either way, it wouldn't be so bad... the former is almost too tragic.

Yeah~~~~

More Komui! (Really, he's so awesome. That volume 7 cover...)

Timeskip! Months pass in only a single chapter!

In this case we will not witness their conversion into exorcists. Plus some time for characetr developmetn will be needed etc. In the end it doesn't turn out to be the best scenario.

Until the moment that Link and the others come for him, anyway. Awww, he'd be so hurt...

And then they would be hurt, unless Allen is going to remain grave idiot till his death.

I'd be interested in seeing if Lavi stays as a Bookman permanently - that is, he runs off and never reconciles with his friends - or if everyone fixes him by the very end of the story and we have a happy ending. Either way, it wouldn't be so bad... the former is almost too tragic.

I'd better be tragic - it suits story (both stories actually) perfectly and therefor is the best choice.

Originally Posted by reinard-fox

In this case we will not witness their conversion into exorcists. Plus some time for characetr developmetn will be needed etc. In the end it doesn't turn out to be the best scenario.

They could be minions, not developed characters who we're going to see much of - sort of like Maosa and Kie.

And then they would be hurt, unless Allen is going to remain grave idiot till his death.

Who, Link & friends? He's bound to escape at some point - but hmmm, if it means he has to kill to do so...

I'd better be tragic - it suits story (both stories actually) perfectly and therefor is the best choice.

Yeah, that's true. But damn, Lavi leaving like that would just be... amazing, actually...

They could be minions, not developed characters who we're going to see much of - sort of like Maosa and Kie.

How can undeveloped characters receive such an important role?

Who, Link & friends? He's bound to escape at some point - but hmmm, if it means he has to kill to do so...

Unless general will be there noone is strong enough to force Allen to kill him.

Yeah, that's true. But damn, Lavi leaving like that would just be... amazing, actually...

Lavi leaving in the mountines, alone, far away from people, listening a waterfall with birds sitting at his shoulder. Isn't it simply perfect?

Originally Posted by reinard-fox

How can undeveloped characters receive such an important role?

Well, they're obviously not the really important disciples, because that's probably the other Noah/Exorcists that we already know of.

Unless general will be there noone is strong enough to force Allen to kill him.

He'd have to attack defenceless people, and Allen's weapons are sharp objects. It'd probably be accidental, but he wasn't even willing to hurt Lavi, so...

Lavi leaving in the mountines, alone, far away from people, listening a waterfall with birds sitting at his shoulder. Isn't it simply perfect?

It makes me cry. T_T That would be such an awesome ending for Lavi, but it's so tragic and unusual that I don't think it'll happen that way.

Well, they're obviously not the really important disciples, because that's probably the other Noah/Exorcists that we already know of.

If they are not important, why bother creating an entire Arc for the sole purpose of bringing them into the game? WHy not simpky use those who already are there?

He'd have to attack defenceless people, and Allen's weapons are sharp objects. It'd probably be accidental, but he wasn't even willing to hurt Lavi, so...

Are you saying that Allen won't attack? That he'll let them grab him, smack him, kick him, rape him?

It makes me cry. T_T That would be such an awesome ending for Lavi, but it's so tragic and unusual that I don't think it'll happen that way.

Lavi fits perfectly for a role of a Monk-sensei, who have hidden himself in the mountines, so that only people who truly wish to become his stidents could visit him and learn the ways of world from him.

It's kinda sad he has no chance to taste this kind of life :\ I'm sure he would have liked it.

Originally Posted by reinard-fox

If they are not important, why bother creating an entire Arc for the sole purpose of bringing them into the game? WHy not simpky use those who already are there?

For the obvious reason: the Order needs soldiers for that final battle, and there are still, what, sixty-something units of Innocence left to find?

Are you saying that Allen won't attack? That he'll let them grab him, smack him, kick him, rape him?

Of course he'll attack. That's why he'd accidentally end up killing one or two of them. (Rape?! Remember, Catholic Order. =P)

Lavi fits perfectly for a role of a Monk-sensei, who have hidden himself in the mountines, so that only people who truly wish to become his stidents could visit him and learn the ways of world from him.

It's kinda sad he has no chance to taste this kind of life :\ I'm sure he would have liked it.

Haha, Lavi as that kind of ascetic... It'd take a lot of trauma to make him that way, though. He seems more like a perverted master who goes around stealing panties and fantasizing about girls.

For the obvious reason: the Order needs soldiers for that final battle, and there are still, what, sixty-something units of Innocence left to find?

Let otehrs generals do that, main hero needs a cooler job!

Of course he'll attack. That's why he'd accidentally end up killing one or two of them. (Rape?! Remember, Catholic Order. =P)

"It's hard to hold back your power when steping on an ant"?

Yes, Catholic Order. This adds even more reasons for them to perform such an act. For they are the Monks, who can't have a healthy relationship with the opposite sex () and do not have much choice but to have an unhealthy one with thier fellows. And Allen...well, such a good opportunity, how can they let it slip away? He looks like a woman anyways.

Haha, Lavi as that kind of ascetic... It'd take a lot of trauma to make him that way, though. He seems more like a perverted master who goes around stealing panties and fantasizing about girls.

Like that teacher of Ranma?