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    He can play while in a warm-up stage. Besides, nothing prevents them from begining in the Ark - and then going to a hot spring. It's even easier to do because no summonig of an Ark is required.

    It may be that Earl knows a way to turn Tiki back to normal from that mad state. If this is the case it appeares that Allen supplyed a service to Earl instead of killing a Noah - he awakened Tiki's power which is hardly a good did.

    It seems that a function of his sword is not what Allen thought it to be.

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    I suppose. The most important part isn't where it happens, but what happens, anyway...

    That would explain why the Earl was so happy, reinard - Allen did him a favour and awakened Tiki, which he didn't expect. We haven't seen Allen successfully use his sword on any other Noah, but it'd be interesting to see what would happen. Would it force them into that awakened state? Would it have no effect, as on Road?
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    Oh, I have totally forgotten about that incident with Road? Can you please tell me what chapter did it happen in?

    If Earl has plans on capturing Allen and/or Linalee, we'll soon have chance to see Allen using his sword once more.

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    It was in 122, I think... Allen shoved the sword through Lavi and into Road, and it had no effect, probably due to the fact that she said she couldn't be harmed in that state. Nevertheless, the fact that it didn't work the only other time he's used it should say just a little...

    Allen's sword still cuts akuma perfectly well (as a normal sword), so yeah, we will~ I'd like to see him try it on other Noah, though.
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    Road says that "People who do not know my true form can't kill me" which suggests that that little girl who Allen pierced is not Roada true body. So using her as an exaple is not correct. So yeah, I agree with you. We need more fights with Noah to determine the true purpose of his sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    Road says that "People who do not know my true form can't kill me" which suggests that that little girl who Allen pierced is not Roada true body. So using her as an exaple is not correct. So yeah, I agree with you. We need more fights with Noah to determine the true purpose of his sword.
    I meant that Allen hasn't used it on anyone successfully yet - remember that the sword isn't meant to kill Noah, but do something with their powers. If Allen intended to harm her, that'd be one thing, but could it be that it didn't work because she was already using a released form - in the dream?
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    ^ If she was already using her released form in that moment and that's why the sword failed to hurt her it would mean only one thing - that swords powers is not destroying Noah, it is awakening thier true might. If it is so then I do not see how it is the power of Innocence, whose purpose is to eleminate evil, not making it more powerfull.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    ^ If she was already using her released form in that moment and that's why the sword failed to hurt her it would mean only one thing - that swords powers is not destroying Noah, it is awakening thier true might. If it is so then I do not see how it is the power of Innocence, whose purpose is to eleminate evil, not making it more powerfull.
    The sword is Innocence, as it's his left arm, and is a weapon, but it really doesn't seem to be doing what Allen thinks it should do - the first time we've ever seen that happen. Oddly enough, it's even been stated that Allen himself automatically knows how to use his arm-weapon. The thing with Road could be as she explained it - it isn't her body, so it can't be damaged in any way - or it could be what I suggested: that Road wasn't affected because Allen's sword works strangely anyway.
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    In any case it's either a plot hole, or Allen fails in understanding his own weapon.

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    That'd be a pretty big plot hole - I doubt Hoshino would let it go without fixing it somehow, since someone - an editor or assistant - is bound to notice and remember. To be fair, we haven't seen Tiki since the Ark, and Allen hasn't used it on any other Noah since that time, either, so there are opportunities to explain it.
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