Thread: Allen's Noahness

Originally Posted by Digital_Eon

...What did that have to do with anything...

Sakura mentioned Lulu apearing naked. I transposed it to this thread.

Originally Posted by Digital_Eon

Aww, I kinda do want him to become a Noah... because it would be an interesting plotline. Besides, wouldn't it at least be slightly amusing to see how the other Noah (some of whom have met and disliked Allen) would react to that kind of thing?

Considering the fact that he had already killed one of them...

And I find it hardly possible since removing Innocece from is heart will be quite troublesome.

Oh, okay. Hoshino does want an older audience, it seems. What's next - conversations in the hot spring baths?

Allen killed a Noah? As far as I can tell, the closest he got to that was the attempted Exorcism of Tiki.

(If Allen's Innocence and Noah powers don't conflict, there wouldn't be any problem with keeping the Innocence shard in his heart, would there?)

Most likely, an Awakening of a Heart by Having Two Parts of It Join. Maybe it will happen in the hot spring. Who knows.

He killed a Noah within Tyky, he human self survived (well, kinda).

They do not conflict for now. We do not know what'll happen if he turns into dark side. You might be right of course, I can't prove anything without evidence. I can only ratiocinate.

Originally Posted by reinard-fox

Most likely, an Awakening of a Heart by Having Two Parts of It Join. Maybe it will happen in the hot spring. Who knows.

Really? I thought it'd be more likely in the 14th's room... there's a large couch there...

He killed a Noah within Tyky, he human self survived (well, kinda).

He still didn't kill Tiki, technically. Anyway, Tiki is still a Noah, and much more dangerous, even if that wasn't Allen's intention.

They do not conflict for now. We do not know what'll happen if he turns into dark side. You might be right of course, I can't prove anything without evidence. I can only ratiocinate.

It was your theory~ I think that both sides would be interested in keeping Allen alive, at the very least, and Innocence and Dark Matter seem to have enough consciousness to be able to act on that.

Hot water is nice~~~~

He made him gone mad, which means the Tyky who could be loved by his family is no longer there. Isn't it enough of a reason to not like Allen?

Well, yeah. The only issue here is if the are able to to make a bargain or not.

There would be conversations in the baths, not that. Why would a couch be in that room if it wasn't going to be used for that?

We don't know if Tiki reverted to his normal form after that or not (presumably he did, since perpetually-mad Tiki isn't going to be of any help to the Earl, either). Assuming Tiki knows what happened to him, he might be angry at Allen... or he might be grateful for that transformation... who knows.

Since the life of their host is at stake, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard.

They can begin in a bath and continue in the 14th room. It would be a waste to make a bath scene for nothing but conversations.

We do not, and we do not know if it is possible to reveart a mad Naoh back. Once again, there is something that just won't allow us to tell is the certain scenario of developement is possible or not.

I'd find it lame if Tyky would be just returned to normal after all that.

If Hoshino feels like drawing Lulu naked, she could use the baths for conversation. Besides, how would anything "continue" in a room somewhere else in the Order, and how would they get there with... um... towels...?

If it wasn't possible for a mad Noah to revert, I doubt the Earl would be so pleased with Tiki's transformation. Anyway, Jasdevi returned to his original form(s) after his fight with Krory, so it doesn't seem too impossible. Skin also transformed fairly easily, and I doubt he would have thrown everything away just to fight one kid.

Allen can simply use his power of a Musitian to summon Ark or something like that.

Maybe Earl knows a way to controll this mad form? Neither of them were stabbed with Anti-Naoh sword, so I doubt that these are similar cases.

Come to think of it, how is this sword anti-Noah if it simply awakens thier hidden powers? Isn't it completely reversed then - isn't it pro-Noah? We still need more info about it to assume anything though.

...Yeah, I guess he could... although it'd be more romantic for Allen to play the piano for Lenalee first. ^_^ I mean, before anything starts...

The Earl could recognize the mad form, though. I just don't think he'd be so happy to see it happen if Tiki wasn't going to revert to his normal form at some point. Maybe Tiki has some kind of trauma as a result, though?

Allen's sword is apparently supposed to exorcise the Noah part, but the only time we've seen him cut that, it failed. Some people have said that it did what it was supposed to and something else happened with Tiki - but then, wouldn't it still be that the sword didn't do what Allen intended it to? We've never seen an Exorcist unable to use their weapon as they want to, so this seems very strange.