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    Default Character discussion: Inspector Rouvelier

    (Forgive me if I misspelled his name, nobody cares anyways, right?)

    When he appeared I was soooooo happy! After all, it is one more prove to that theory we made a year ago. And, what is more important, he finally destroyed that impression of the Black Order as of some kind of big-happy-family that I used to get reading earlier parts of manga. Only Kanda's indifference towards finders fate was against this impression, but now, after Inspectors appearence it is finally totally destroyed. Which is good, because all that Belldandy-style stuff hardly fitted into originally dark concept of DGM.

    So, for me that Inspector represent the sombre side of manga. And that is why I rejoiced when he appeared.

    Any other opinions?

    P.S. If it was already discussed in some other thread then please lock/kill/ban or whatever is doen in such situation.

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    (There's no official romanization, I think. It does sound French, though.)

    I feel the same way about him. Others have complained that he looks a little too evil, but I think it works with his character, who seems to be revealing the hierarchy to the Order as even more obvious than Kanda (who, as we've seen, is just nasty to everyone). At this point in the story, it wouldn't work for him to look like a nice person - that should be saved for some of the really bad guys. Anyway, enough of that... He provides balance in the Order. So far, everyone we've seen has been really nice and friendly, and they all get along regardless of rank (like how Komui is technically everyone's boss, except for the Generals). His inclusion even highlights Kanda's attitude in the beginning... and really, isn't it just a little true that no one of any "importance" cares about the Finders? How many have we really seen act friendly with the Exorcists? Actually, how many have a personality at all that we've seen? I'm sure they do, but the fact that the Exorcists don't interact with them - or really, anyone besides each other and the Science section - does show some kind of divide, if not outright disrespect like Kanda has. The Inspector's attitude also emphasizes the amount of power that we haven't seen yet that can afford to look at even Exorcists as disposable pawns. That's much closer to reality (a real army) than the friendly attitude that the Order used to have, and it's good to see that Hoshino didn't overlook that.
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    Thats exactly what I wanted to say (my english didn't allow me to ). His presence make Order seem more like it is supposed to be: a military organisation whose goal is to save humanity no matter how much it would cost. So sacrificing ordinary people (like Finders) or even living weapons exorcists is not a matter worth worring about. (Although from a logical point of view sacrificing exorcists is just stupid - it is wasting thier only real weapons that they have so much trouble finding).

    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon
    How many have we really seen act friendly with the Exorcists?
    And how fast that rumor about Allen being an enemy spread and got exceedingly popular - it seems that nobody really trusts exorcists, they just have to tolerate them, as innocence is the only hope in a war against Earl.

    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon
    That's much closer to reality (a real army) than the friendly attitude that the Order used to have, and it's good to see that Hoshino didn't overlook that.
    Yeah, it certanly is promising from my point of veiw - just by adding one more character she made manga really different. I wonder if she was planning this from the begining or the idea of adding fuhrer came to her mind only recently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon
    Others have complained that he looks a little too evil, but I think it works with his character, who seems to be revealing the hierarchy to the Order as even more obvious than Kanda (who, as we've seen, is just nasty to everyone).
    As for him looking too evil and a lot like Hitler - it seem to be Hoshino's style (to make some characters have a hypertrophic appearence (just look at Earl)) that doesn't seem bad at all to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    Thats exactly what I wanted to say (my english didn't allow me to ). His presence make Order seem more like it is supposed to be: a military organisation whose goal is to save humanity no matter how much it would cost. So sacrificing ordinary people (like Finders) or even living weapons exorcists is not a matter worth worring about. (Although from a logical point of view sacrificing exorcists is just stupid - it is wasting thier only real weapons that they have so much trouble finding).
    It's logical, and I don't think anyone would want to send Exorcists out on unnecessary suicide missions, but that's sensible from a military point of view, too. The main point is that they are weapons, and while it'd be a pain to replace them, it could still be done. They're just "weapons" to some (including Allen, apparently).

    And how fast that rumor about Allen being an enemy spread and got exceedingly popular - it seems that nobody really trusts exorcists, they just have to tolerate them, as innocence is the only hope in a war against Earl.
    Small wonder with Kanda running around... It must be really easy to assume that of the Exorcists if no one knows them. Even Chaoji was surprised to find that they were so human.

    Yeah, it certanly is promising from my point of veiw - just by adding one more character she made manga really different. I wonder if she was planning this from the begining or the idea of adding fuhrer came to her mind only recently.
    I'm willing to bet that she planned it (she seems to have planned a lot of story elements - Allen's musician powers, for one - from that time), but the design for the Inspector may be more recent. xD

    As for him looking too evil and a lot like Hitler - it seem to be Hoshino's style (to make some characters have a hypertrophic appearence (just look at Earl)) that doesn't seem bad at all to me.
    The Earl looks weird, but he definitely doesn't look as malicious as he acts - it's his expressions that make you shiver and feel scared. The Noah don't look very intimidating or mean, either, when they're in their white forms and not acting that way. Although the Inspector looks like Hitler, it's also his expressions that really make him seem evil. And I love that. <3 The irony is that this is set before the time of Hitler, too, so no one can make references to WWII. XD
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    He is the greatest - I totally agree with Reinard - no more "Group hugs at Black Order" stuff which was so sweet you could puke...like seriously.

    I don't think he is evil - but he will surely make mistakes in his assumption that will lead to some disaster and everyone will say "told you so" - same old pattern...

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    We'll probably still be getting group hugs - he'll just be breaking them up this time. I like how his appearance has been bringing out Komui's serious side; that's what makes Komui one of my favourite characters.

    Mistakes? I don't think he'll be getting that any time soon. He's being cautious, and is making a perfectly reasonable decision in being careful around Cross and Allen (whose records are awfully suspicious, you must admit). I'm surprised none of his friends have been suspicious and that Chaoji hasn't said anything.
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    Naah - I see a lame pattern like that.

    Allen will have an ability to save the day - Rouvelier will somehow stop or handicap Allen from doing it because he is over suspicious - Noah strikes and succeds in something - Allen saves the day anyway - Everyone turns at Roubelier and says "See, he wasn't bad after all".

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    But what has he done or said that he'd be proved wrong about? Allen being an ally of the Noah? That's only wrong right now; who knows if Allen's going to run off and join them and prove the theory to be true. As it is, he does have connections to them, just as was predicted. I think the closest to your theory we can expect is some of the Exorcists ganging up against him and doing their own thing. Besides, if Allen turns out to save the day and people remember that the Inspector wanted him tried for heresy, he's still got the defense of "he's got Noah powers". I don't think anyone would be dumb enough to stop Allen from using a weapon against the Earl unless they supported the Earl, either. The Inspector has shown he's perfectly willing to use even bad guys when it suits him.
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    That's the whole point - he will continue to reject Allen although for us, readers, it will be obvious that Allen is on "good side". That's inspectors role, unfortunately.

    Allen isn't really smart, whom he really wants to protect by not telling what he know ? Cross ? Dead Mana ? Surely not himself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolox View Post
    That's the whole point - he will continue to reject Allen although for us, readers, it will be obvious that Allen is on "good side". That's inspectors role, unfortunately.
    Unless Allen is on the Noah's side which is the good side, in which case... =P I think he'd let Allen attack the Earl, though. The Inspector may be an antagonist, but he's not a stupid one. Hoshino hasn't made characters like that (well, except Tiki and Kanda, but they're supposed to be morons. Inspector isn't).

    Allen isn't really smart, whom he really wants to protect by not telling what he know ? Cross ? Dead Mana ? Surely not himself...
    His bio page said he was kinda stupid. xD I'm not surprised. I think Allen isn't telling anyone because he isn't the type to do that. After fifteen volumes, the closest we've seen to Allen revealing his worries and feelings was either his past to Lenalee in volume 3 or that he's staying back in the Ark (also to Lenalee - except she asked him about it first) in chapter 123. Everything else, like his dream thing when dying, he hasn't spoken about to anyone. I think he just doesn't want to worry anyone or burden them with his problems... which is stupid, since everyone cares about him so much...
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