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    i thought maria is actually an exorcist aswell? which is why cross can use two innocence as weapons, his and maria's

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    Maria is a corpse and Cross is using magic to manipulate her corpse to use her Innocence. Technically, as with Kory/Krory and Allen's cases Maria IS the Innocence.

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    Wait, to clear things: Is it now confirmed (by any hints?) that Cross has magic abilities?

    And if Cross is using magic for keeping Maria's corpse (which probably is the case), then it would be rather necromancy xD

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    Oh yeah, I forgot that it was the same Ark... but he obviously did have to travel through the Egg somehow, and it doesn't seem as if he used Maria's disguise. As for Maria, she's a dead Exorcist with a parasitic-type Innocence which Cross controls with magic. I'd assume that it does mean he knows magic (o_O). It's possible that the Order doesn't know of Maria at all; perhaps Cross (as a General) encountered a civilian Maria, and then she died before he could contact the Order, if he wanted to do so at all?
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    I'd go with the civilian Maria. It seems that Cross isn't just a playboy, he gets emotional attachments to each girl he, well "retires to bed with" (I guess) and he didn't want Maria to be involved with HQ? (don't know seems more romantic that way xD)

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    A civilian Maria would be the only way the Order wouldn't know about her, and Cross, as a General, would have had the opportunity to meet her and even set her up as an Exorcist. On the other hand, it could be that he was bringing her back to the Order and she got killed on the way. We don't really know. She's obviously been around for years, and Cross is loyal to the Order (his four-year departure apparently involved plans to get the Earl's Egg, after all), so it seems a little weird that he wouldn't even tell the Order about her (even if he planned on keeping her away from it). Allen was involved with Noah, so it would make sense that Cross wouldn't contact the Order with that sort of plan, but what about Maria?

    Anyway, it does seem that Cross has emotional attachments to his lovers... or Anita, at least. Have we really seen any others (assuming Cloud 9 is nothing more than a female colleague)?
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    I had the urge to tl;dr that (I'm sleepy xD) but since Maria (even though she's a weapon) is a mysterious character and her past is a mystery to us, I read it anyway =p Anyways, I guess you're right, maybe Cross found her during his travels (like Allen, even though it was planned by him and the 14th) and since he didn't want to go back to HQ he never really bothered registering her?

    On another note, how did Maria die? Also you could really see that Cross had attachment to his lovers, take Maria for example and more recently, Anita. (I guess her having an Innocence is a bonus?)

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    Nuoooo! My DGM posts are too important and obsessive to tl;dr! XD

    Allen seems very planned; Cross definitely knew the 14th somehow, but it seems that Cross may not have had anything to do with Mana's plans for Allen. Cross was only gone for four years, yet it seems that Mana had been teaching Allen the musical score long before (unless Allen is supposed to be eleven in those pictures... um....), and for Cross to have been involved with Mana for years and be the one assigned on an Ark-based mission just seems too coincidental. Obviously, the Order doesn't know of those plans since Allen and Cross are suspected of betraying the Order. There's still something odd about Cross...

    Maria probably didn't die by sustaining a great number of injuries, but we don't know how she died... only that she still has her Innocence. We also don't know if she was technically his lover or not (it's assumed from her outfit and his personality), or if he revived her because of that or her weapon or even just friendship...

    ...on another note, isn't it funny how Maria and Allen both are parasitic-types and have connections to music? :3
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    That's why I read it anyway! xD

    Well one thing is for sure, Cross is the wild card for the whole series. It seems that, more or less, every important character is related to Cross (either by a degree or 2. Also I think Allen must be younger when he and Mana created those characters, I mean basically you've just created another language and memorizing it is kind of hard).

    Well she must've died by an illness seeing as she gots perfect skin and all. (not sure about the magics in the DGM world, so I'm assuming that healing magics aren't used.)

    ZOMG! You're right, I just noticed that xD Mebbe she's his mother? :3 (or just one big coincidence)

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    just noticed that 4 posts ago I broke through the 1k posts mark xD (yay me)

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    Six degrees of separation from Cross? XD Of course, most of the characters in the series belong to one side or the other, so it isn't too hard to be connected to Cross in that way. The character thing - I thought Allen was young because that's when secret languages are cool and important. You see small children making them, not kids of eleven or twelve. Allen did describe it as characters that he and Mana made up (I guess for fun), and didn't seem to think they had any importance outside of their relationship.

    I guess Maria could have been stabbed in the stomach or something and we just can't see the wound (hm, her face is covered). Actually, Allen's Innocence covers his face too... hmm... the "mother" thing seems like a wild guess, or did, but I think it might be possible, if only because her name is Maria and Allen is a Jesus parallel (born on Christmas, saving the world, 13 other Exorcists and one of those completely disagrees with him... =P). Cross and Krory have shown that Hoshino doesn't pick every character name from an item of jewellery, so...

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