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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolox View Post
    Everyone has some issues - like riding a jet-plane shaped like a dragon...
    XDDD I love the song that was set to the scene at the ending of 21. But seriously, I don't think they have a choice.

    DGM isn't bloody actually - Akuma's explodes too and don't bleed.
    It doesn't need it. Akuma take the SKIN of people, and we've seen Allen's eye get taken out twice. Of all the body parts you could lose, an eye is the freakiest to think about.

    If they destroyed innocence, can you still call it an exorcist ?
    They'd need to destroy the Innocence, but if there's no enemy, who would do it?

    To start with, Road didn't killed anyone, but she surely had ability to do so. She is just weird and she is rarely serious about anything.
    Everyone has the ability to kill someone; the question is, will they? Road didn't, and she could have.

    ..and you blame her that she fought back ?
    But one thing is clear about Jasdebi - they came there to, like Road does it, tease them and enjoy their suffering, since they never would have thought that they have an ability to actually damage them (Road is full of herself too, she never considered them as a threat before Boric died).
    I don't blame her, but Jasdevi wasn't intending to kill/hurt her until then. That's why they stuck her in a BUBBLE.

    Their teasing is really different, though. Road plays with people like a child while Jasdevi is arrogant about how much power he has. They were having fun with the guns and all (and come on, they're apparently in their mid-teens; what kind of a boy at that age doesn't have some immaturity?), but afterwards, they were being attacked. They weren't playing around at the beginning.

    Road didn't consider them to be a threat? Maybe - but she's only met two of them, and they also happen to be the two least threatening Exorcists (or were, at the time). Allen can't kill humans, and both he and Rinari act like total morons when their friends are nearby and in danger (Allen COULD have killed the akuma, for example, and saved himself a lot of trouble had he not been trying to get to Rinari, and we all know what she's like with friendship). To our knowledge, Road has never met Rabi, Kanda, or Crowley. She didn't know what to compare them to.

    ...and honestly, Allen and Rinari are still the least threatening Exorcists.

    Doesn't make me less a murderer, does it ? Whatever Earl asks them to do so, they proved to have an ability to disobey him (that's probably why all characters are alive - seriously, if Noah got serious from the very beginning this wouldn't have happened).
    ...They're disobeying him by NOT killing. xD Haha. Yeah, it still makes them murderers, but it's still not really their choice, and it wasn't their choice to be a Noah in the first place.

    As for Tiki, yes, he's a murderer, but it's also pro-active self-defence since there's only one Exorcist at this time who isn't going to kill any Noah on sight.

    Didn't they just fallowed Rinali when she was sucked into the ark ? I don't remember well. Moreover, it might be dangerous to put general level exorcist there - who knows, maybe he would be able to get out of there (Miranda wasn't pulled there too since her innocence would be really convenient for exorcist - maybe Earl predicted Noah's rush)
    Hard to say. Rinari was the first to go in, but it is kind of strange that four other Exorcists would be there, too. It seemed to me like a "take whoever comes within x amount of time", but for all we know the Earl could have planned it, just like that. Miranda might not have been pulled in since she doesn't pose a threat; find her on her own, and it's easy to destroy her Innocence.

    The only way they could get out of the Ark was by Road's doors. Tiedoll's powers clearly do not relate to the Ark. (I'd like to point out the irony of having a general-level Exorcist in there who has actually just managed to make things worse. xD)

    The idea 'use the sword to slash enemy' is quite obvious - Well, we will see - maybe Noahs are more sturdy than we think they are.
    He did some kind of distance slash at first. That's not really logical - unless he watches Inuyasha or something, you SHOULD think that you have to get close to someone to slash them. Um... or maybe I was right and he has Noah-promoting powers. =D (No, not really, but I like it.)

    No, it wouldn't be lame - it would be realistic. Come on, he never used such weapon before and some voices are telling him what this sword is capable off - that doesn't mean he can use it super efficiently.
    I don't really see it as being THAT realistic. He definitely knows how to use his arm; that's an instinct. The sword is still his arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    XDDD I love the song that was set to the scene at the ending of 21. But seriously, I don't think they have a choice.
    We can argue about this, but we have no evidence - so let's close this part

    It doesn't need it. Akuma take the SKIN of people, and we've seen Allen's eye get taken out twice. Of all the body parts you could lose, an eye is the freakiest to think about.
    And he always have it back.. that's stupid. (and why they don't show how Akuma eats up humans insides ?..bastards, bunch of wankers)..

    They'd need to destroy the Innocence, but if there's no enemy, who would do it?
    ...why doesn't earl nuke the area where innocence is ? It should be possible with his powers and money...

    Everyone has the ability to kill someone; the question is, will they? Road didn't, and she could have.
    Yeah, because she is stupid. Now she woke up and wants to kill them ? And back then she only hurted them - for freaking what reason ?

    I don't blame her, but Jasdevi wasn't intending to kill/hurt her until then. That's why they stuck her in a BUBBLE.
    The question rise - what would Jasdevi do with Rinali after defeating Allen ?

    Their teasing is really different, though. Road plays with people like a child while Jasdevi is arrogant about how much power he has. They were having fun with the guns and all (and come on, they're apparently in their mid-teens; what kind of a boy at that age doesn't have some immaturity?), but afterwards, they were being attacked. They weren't playing around at the beginning.
    At the beginning, they completely controled the situations - it was when exorcist found the weak spot Jasdevi became really serious about killing them.

    Road didn't consider them to be a threat? Maybe - but she's only met two of them, and they also happen to be the two least threatening Exorcists (or were, at the time). Allen can't kill humans, and both he and Rinari act like total morons when their friends are nearby and in danger (Allen COULD have killed the akuma, for example, and saved himself a lot of trouble had he not been trying to get to Rinari, and we all know what she's like with friendship). To our knowledge, Road has never met Rabi, Kanda, or Crowley. She didn't know what to compare them to.
    No - Road doesn't consider any exorcist as a threat, even generals - since Earl is allmighty and stuff.

    ...and honestly, Allen and Rinari are still the least threatening Exorcists.
    Rinari yes - Allen no. That's why I hate him.

    ...They're disobeying him by NOT killing. xD Haha. Yeah, it still makes them murderers, but it's still not really their choice, and it wasn't their choice to be a Noah in the first place.
    Again about the 'there wasn't their choice' - I actually think it was their choice and they have lots of fun with it.

    As for Tiki, yes, he's a murderer, but it's also pro-active self-defence since there's only one Exorcist at this time who isn't going to kill any Noah on sight.
    He is more disguised than Exorcist - Exorcist have no means to learn whatever it's noah or human.

    Hard to say. Rinari was the first to go in, but it is kind of strange that four other Exorcists would be there, too. It seemed to me like a "take whoever comes within x amount of time", but for all we know the Earl could have planned it, just like that. Miranda might not have been pulled in since she doesn't pose a threat; find her on her own, and it's easy to destroy her Innocence.
    Miranda might be a threat if Earl predicted Noah's reaction - time stopping is really helpful.

    The only way they could get out of the Ark was by Road's doors. Tiedoll's powers clearly do not relate to the Ark. (I'd like to point out the irony of having a general-level Exorcist in there who has actually just managed to make things worse. xD)
    We don't know Tiedoll's full abilities - why can't he just paint the doors

    He did some kind of distance slash at first. That's not really logical - unless he watches Inuyasha or something, you SHOULD think that you have to get close to someone to slash them. Um... or maybe I was right and he has Noah-promoting powers. =D (No, not really, but I like it.)
    That was extremely stupid

    I don't really see it as being THAT realistic. He definitely knows how to use his arm; that's an instinct. The sword is still his arm.
    No that's just saying nonsense - and about being realistic. If someone got in his a gun for the first time ever, he wouldn't know how to shoot it at the beginning - I think same logic should be used here.

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    First off, about Allen's arm/sword: the reason he knows what it does is because he willed it to do that. The innocence is (in a way) a reflection of the desiers of the person who weilds it. This is talked about when Allen is training to form the Crown Clown. Does it mean that he knows how to use a sword? Nope, he just knows it's long, sharp, and you "poke" the Noahs with it. Does it mean an instant conversion to human? I don't think so. I personally think it reverses the prossess, taking the amount of time that it originaly took for the Noahization prossess to happen, just in reverse. So, in short, I think the Tiki we are seeing is actually an earlier version of his power, before the butterflies were butterflies (they look more like catapillers or centepides to me). The reson that he can call it back is because a peice of the innocence is still within him, acting like a magnet (Allen overall has the greater weight), besides who didn't see that happening (hey, blade, come here!)?
    To me this begs the question of what exactly is happening to the Dark Boots. Could it be that by forcing the DB to 100% synchro Leenalee transformed it from an equipment type to a virus type? That could explain why it isn't responding to her, after all they do say that the two innocencess activate in diffrent ways.
    Anyways, have fun tearing this apart, and flame on!

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    That's completely my point, thanks Ranteil for helping me out convincing Digi. Allen knows too little about his innocence, that's a good explanation for Tiki's reappearing.
    Moreover, if Allen already would reach master level, there would be no room for him to become stronger - and that Hoshino will never do.

    The Dark Boots are quite the mystery - I think they somehow intergrated with Rinali's legs (got burnt into her body) and they are a little damaged. I think she will be in that state untill they return to HQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolox View Post
    We can argue about this, but we have no evidence - so let's close this part
    Okay.

    And he always have it back.. that's stupid. (and why they don't show how Akuma eats up humans insides ?..bastards, bunch of wankers)..
    He got it back the first time so that he COULD be cursed, and the second time was... kind of unnecessary. As for the akuma, who said they eat the insides? o_o

    ...why doesn't earl nuke the area where innocence is ? It should be possible with his powers and money...
    They won't be invented for another 50 years.

    Yeah, because she is stupid. Now she woke up and wants to kill them ? And back then she only hurted them - for freaking what reason ?
    She doesn't want to kill them. She wants to get back at Allen by hurting him somehow. As for hurting - masochism? She did allow Miranda to use her power, and Allen to get a power-up for his eye...

    The question rise - what would Jasdevi do with Rinali after defeating Allen ?
    I think the better question is, what would Rinari do with Jasdevi if they defeated Allen. Uh... so I guess Jasdevi would beat her up for a time (since she'd go after them).

    At the beginning, they completely controled the situations - it was when exorcist found the weak spot Jasdevi became really serious about killing them.
    And because that was when the Exorcists were attacking back. His mood changed when he fought Crowley; THAT was having fun... but he also saw Crowley as a monster. It wasn't killing a human, it was doing whatever Exorcists do when they fight akuma - to Jasdevi, anyway.

    No - Road doesn't consider any exorcist as a threat, even generals - since Earl is allmighty and stuff.
    Except maybe Rabi? Sure, the Earl is powerful, but Road is quite intelligent. She's less concerned because two of them didn't pass through her door, and she's facing two who can't kill her, but I don't think she expected Rabi to win her game. After all, he's a Bookman; he shouldn't have been that confident facing that kind of struggle. She seems to be able to read his mind (?), so she was more confident because she found his weakness - not because he wasn't a threat AT ALL.


    Rinari yes - Allen no. That's why I hate him.
    Because he isn't threatening? He can't even kill a goddamn Noah!

    Again about the 'there wasn't their choice' - I actually think it was their choice and they have lots of fun with it.
    I don't, because they didn't have a choice in becoming a Noah. It reminds me of something from the Wheel of Time - these certain evil guys can get together and change a normal human to become evil. That person's natural personality is corrupted (twisted to become darker) and they wouldn't want to be nice again. However, it was still against their will in the first place. Tiki may like having a light and dark side, but did he want that originally?

    He is more disguised than Exorcist - Exorcist have no means to learn whatever it's noah or human.
    There's an uninjured human walking around an akuma-infested area, and he isn't an Exorcist or Finder. That's a pretty bad disguise. xD

    Miranda might be a threat if Earl predicted Noah's reaction - time stopping is really helpful.
    She doesn't have any offensive abilities now. Miranda can erase past injures temporarily, but they're not permanent; she also cannot necessarily protect against new ones (has anyone forgotten that Rabi is still injured from that black dome thing in Edo? If Miranda's power gives out...).

    We don't know Tiedoll's full abilities - why can't he just paint the doors
    Because he apparently can't. If he could, wouldn't he have done so to get the Exorcists out right away?

    That was extremely stupid
    What, my guess?

    No that's just saying nonsense - and about being realistic. If someone got in his a gun for the first time ever, he wouldn't know how to shoot it at the beginning - I think same logic should be used here.
    It isn't the same logic, because Allen already knows how to use his Innocence - he's been using it for three years! He's also immediately known how to use the upgrades that he's gotten (like the gun and Crowned Clown). Why assume that he can't use this now when this has never been the case in the past?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranteil
    First off, about Allen's arm/sword: the reason he knows what it does is because he willed it to do that. The innocence is (in a way) a reflection of the desiers of the person who weilds it. This is talked about when Allen is training to form the Crown Clown. Does it mean that he knows how to use a sword? Nope, he just knows it's long, sharp, and you "poke" the Noahs with it.
    He apparently succeeded in doing that, though. He did slash through Tiki, and he did pull out the Noah part. He may not know how to use a sword in combat but he obviously used THAT right.

    Does it mean an instant conversion to human? I don't think so. I personally think it reverses the prossess, taking the amount of time that it originaly took for the Noahization prossess to happen, just in reverse. So, in short, I think the Tiki we are seeing is actually an earlier version of his power, before the butterflies were butterflies (they look more like catapillers or centepides to me).
    That's totally different from saying that Allen doesn't know how to use his Innocence and that he screwed up. That's saying that he still succeeded in killing the Noah, and the process/effects are what isn't known. It's an interesting idea, but those look like tentacles to me...

    The reson that he can call it back is because a peice of the innocence is still within him, acting like a magnet (Allen overall has the greater weight), besides who didn't see that happening (hey, blade, come here!)?
    That makes sense to me. ._.

    To me this begs the question of what exactly is happening to the Dark Boots. Could it be that by forcing the DB to 100% synchro Leenalee transformed it from an equipment type to a virus type? That could explain why it isn't responding to her, after all they do say that the two innocencess activate in diffrent ways.
    Anyways, have fun tearing this apart, and flame on!
    ...That... is a very good idea and I never thought of that (the activation part, that is). I'd be surprised if it was just because of the maximum invocation, but it might have something to do with her Innocence's strange powers anyway. I like it. So Kolox, maybe Allen will be more helpful after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kolox
    Moreover, if Allen already would reach master level, there would be no room for him to become stronger - and that Hoshino will never do.
    ...She could just say that his Innocence isn't powerful enough or screwed up. There's a long way to go. xD

    The Dark Boots are quite the mystery - I think they somehow intergrated with Rinali's legs (got burnt into her body) and they are a little damaged. I think she will be in that state untill they return to HQ.
    She's still got shoes, but it does make me wonder what's up with the spirals. The only time we've seen anyone else use maximum invocation... well, he got his Innocence removed soon after. The inability to move very well (and possibly invocate) might just be the side-effects of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    He got it back the first time so that he COULD be cursed, and the second time was... kind of unnecessary. As for the akuma, who said they eat the insides? o_o
    So what do they do - just rip off the skin ?

    They won't be invented for another 50 years.
    But he has super powers equal to nuke !!

    She doesn't want to kill them. She wants to get back at Allen by hurting him somehow. As for hurting - masochism? She did allow Miranda to use her power, and Allen to get a power-up for his eye...
    It's not like she power-uped Allen's eye on purpose - and I don't understand Road completely.

    I think the better question is, what would Rinari do with Jasdevi if they defeated Allen. Uh... so I guess Jasdevi would beat her up for a time (since she'd go after them).
    Rinari would go emo

    And because that was when the Exorcists were attacking back. His mood changed when he fought Crowley; THAT was having fun... but he also saw Crowley as a monster. It wasn't killing a human, it was doing whatever Exorcists do when they fight akuma - to Jasdevi, anyway.
    Can't really blame Jasdebi for saying that - but I felt more like "Your a monster ! A being which can't hurt me can't be human ! Freak !" - more like he doesn't accept the fact that he could get beaten up by human

    Except maybe Rabi? Sure, the Earl is powerful, but Road is quite intelligent. She's less concerned because two of them didn't pass through her door, and she's facing two who can't kill her, but I don't think she expected Rabi to win her game. After all, he's a Bookman; he shouldn't have been that confident facing that kind of struggle. She seems to be able to read his mind (?), so she was more confident because she found his weakness - not because he wasn't a threat AT ALL.
    If she was sure she can win, was he a threat ?

    Because he isn't threatening? He can't even kill a goddamn Noah!
    But he rises from dead - that's quite an ability.

    I don't, because they didn't have a choice in becoming a Noah. It reminds me of something from the Wheel of Time - these certain evil guys can get together and change a normal human to become evil. That person's natural personality is corrupted (twisted to become darker) and they wouldn't want to be nice again. However, it was still against their will in the first place. Tiki may like having a light and dark side, but did he want that originally?
    Tiki feels this is the only path to his happines, he has no regrets choosing that path.

    There's an uninjured human walking around an akuma-infested area, and he isn't an Exorcist or Finder. That's a pretty bad disguise. xD
    It's like exorcist don't have anything better to do but get interested with some stupid humans who can't hide themselves while they are attacked by akuma - I found it absurdal.

    She doesn't have any offensive abilities now. Miranda can erase past injures temporarily, but they're not permanent; she also cannot necessarily protect against new ones (has anyone forgotten that Rabi is still injured from that black dome thing in Edo? If Miranda's power gives out...).
    Even so, they would fight more efficiently

    Because he apparently can't. If he could, wouldn't he have done so to get the Exorcists out right away?
    He can't because he doesn't know where would that doors go to - it's not like he knows where they are.

    What, my guess?
    Now, that scene.

    It isn't the same logic, because Allen already knows how to use his Innocence - he's been using it for three years! He's also immediately known how to use the upgrades that he's gotten (like the gun and Crowned Clown). Why assume that he can't use this now when this has never been the case in the past?
    Allright - tell me that a freaking anti-noah sword is the same as Crowned Clown..dare to say that and I will rudely laugh at you.

    Yeah, and I bet you're having dream-sex with Kaiba too, aren't you?!
    But those are where Kaiba doesn't smile, because whenever Kaiba smiles - a puppy dies.
    So Kolox, maybe Allen will be more helpful after all.
    ALLEN NEEDS TO DIE !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolox View Post
    So what do they do - just rip off the skin ?
    Slide in through the guts and all?


    But he has super powers equal to nuke !!
    He doesn't have a nuke, though. Anyway, his "nuke" doesn't destroy Innocence (like in Edo).

    It's not like she power-uped Allen's eye on purpose - and I don't understand Road completely.
    Or did she? :3 She's a mystery.

    Rinari would go emo
    I think Rinari would try to kick ass, actually.

    Can't really blame Jasdebi for saying that - but I felt more like "Your a monster ! A being which can't hurt me can't be human ! Freak !" - more like he doesn't accept the fact that he could get beaten up by human
    I think it's because he's a vampire. It's the way his Innocence works, but it's really inhuman; even the normal humans in his village couldn't accept him because of that. Jasdevi completely freaked out when he found out Crowley was drinking akuma blood oil, after all.

    If she was sure she can win, was he a threat ?
    Yes, because he CAN harm her. The reason she trapped him in there was because he was a threat in the first place.

    But he rises from dead - that's quite an ability.
    I mean... to the lives of the Noah. Just because he doesn't die doesn't mean that he's dangerous to them.

    Tiki feels this is the only path to his happines, he has no regrets choosing that path.
    He's thinking that now, after he's become a Noah. Not before.

    It's like exorcist don't have anything better to do but get interested with some stupid humans who can't hide themselves while they are attacked by akuma - I found it absurdal.
    Dude. Akuma KILL humans. There were tons of akuma there. For there to be a human, UNINJURED, walking around normally... well, I'd be incredibly suspicious of him, even thinking that he may be an akuma. Rabi himself was killing anything and everything that challenged him on a crowded street in a city that WASN'T obviously full of akuma, because he was paranoid. That's how Exorcists survive.

    Even so, they would fight more efficiently
    She can't kill anyone, though, and the Noah (some of whom seem to have regenerative powers?) should know that if you can't kill them right away-

    He can't because he doesn't know where would that doors go to - it's not like he knows where they are.
    ...They're in the Ark. He knows that; he saw the Ark and he and Bookman were saying stuff about it. Anyway, that's too much like Road's ability.

    Allright - tell me that a freaking anti-noah sword is the same as Crowned Clown..dare to say that and I will rudely laugh at you.
    ...Except that it kind of is. Crowned Clown is the actual form of his Innocence, and the sword is just an incarnation of that (hence why he looks nearly the same). The process to the sword wasn't all that different from him getting the gun thing, either - he wanted a power-up, it happened.

    But those are where Kaiba doesn't smile, because whenever Kaiba smiles - a puppy dies.
    Screw the puppies, I have green hair.

    ALLEN NEEDS TO DIE !!
    Actually, after thinking about that theory, ranteil - it seems much more likely. Re-reading those chapters, Rinari was completely vaporized as the result of her attack (Eshi said it was air friction), and you can even see the fragments of those scale things that appeared all over her body. I guess that the Innocence would have to reform her, in order to create that crystal... so maybe it changed its own form in that sense. The difference between parasitic and equipment is that the parasitic is a part of the Exorcist's body - they have to restrain the power themselves. If the boots had to be reformed too, it's not unlikely that something weird could have happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    Slide in through the guts and all?
    Weren't Akuma eating you and stuff ?

    He doesn't have a nuke, though. Anyway, his "nuke" doesn't destroy Innocence (like in Edo).
    Even better - kill everything beside innocence, it's easier to search this way..

    I think it's because he's a vampire. It's the way his Innocence works, but it's really inhuman; even the normal humans in his village couldn't accept him because of that. Jasdevi completely freaked out when he found out Crowley was drinking akuma blood oil, after all.
    Yeah, I would freak out too

    Yes, because he CAN harm her. The reason she trapped him in there was because he was a threat in the first place.
    How could Rabi harm her without Road exposing herself ? If she didn't created the illusions in Rabi head, she wouldn't be exposed to the attacks.

    I mean... to the lives of the Noah. Just because he doesn't die doesn't mean that he's dangerous to them.
    I would find it really disturbing if someone who I killed just comes back and tries to kill me.

    He's thinking that now, after he's become a Noah. Not before.
    You don't know that

    Dude. Akuma KILL humans. There were tons of akuma there. For there to be a human, UNINJURED, walking around normally... well, I'd be incredibly suspicious of him, even thinking that he may be an akuma. Rabi himself was killing anything and everything that challenged him on a crowded street in a city that WASN'T obviously full of akuma, because he was paranoid. That's how Exorcists survive.
    Why would Akuma disguise himself as a human when everyone else is exposed, stupid tactic. Moreover, why would exorcist care - just kill everyone on sight !! YAY


    ...They're in the Ark. He knows that; he saw the Ark and he and Bookman were saying stuff about it. Anyway, that's too much like Road's ability.
    But those he know where are they ? Where is the arc right now and stuff... but whatever - he wasn't sucked up for a reason, because he is powerful.

    ...Except that it kind of is. Crowned Clown is the actual form of his Innocence, and the sword is just an incarnation of that (hence why he looks nearly the same). The process to the sword wasn't all that different from him getting the gun thing, either - he wanted a power-up, it happened.
    hahahaha

    Screw the puppies, I have green hair.
    ..and that's how he was kiddnaped for the 756 time.


    Actually, after thinking about that theory, ranteil - it seems much more likely. Re-reading those chapters, Rinari was completely vaporized as the result of her attack (Eshi said it was air friction), and you can even see the fragments of those scale things that appeared all over her body. I guess that the Innocence would have to reform her, in order to create that crystal... so maybe it changed its own form in that sense. The difference between parasitic and equipment is that the parasitic is a part of the Exorcist's body - they have to restrain the power themselves. If the boots had to be reformed too, it's not unlikely that something weird could have happened.
    It could be..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolox View Post
    Weren't Akuma eating you and stuff ?
    Were they? I thought they killed a human and then took the body.

    Even better - kill everything beside innocence, it's easier to search this way..
    ...Well, not EVERYTHING. I just mean that the nuke isn't reliable in destroying everything.

    Yeah, I would freak out too
    Even Allen and Rabi have been afraid of Crowley, knowing that he's an Exorcist...

    How could Rabi harm her without Road exposing herself ? If she didn't created the illusions in Rabi head, she wouldn't be exposed to the attacks.
    Her, or her family? She trapped him in there to prevent him from interfering with Tiki's battle. That means that she was worried that he would create an imbalance that would result in Tiki being killed.

    I would find it really disturbing if someone who I killed just comes back and tries to kill me.
    Disturbing, but not life-threatening. This is Allen, after all...


    You don't know that
    You don't know that he was always evil or wanted to be, either.

    Why would Akuma disguise himself as a human when everyone else is exposed, stupid tactic. Moreover, why would exorcist care - just kill everyone on sight !! YAY
    Because akuma are stupid? They're Exorcists; they're paranoid, and can't trust ANYONE. Any human could be an akuma, regardless of the situation. What if there was a smart akuma that hid as a human while everyone else was exposed, and the Exorcists dropped their guard because of that?

    Yes, they WOULD kill everyone, which is why I think Daisya would have attacked Tiki anyway (or possibly DID attack Tiki; we didn't see what happened right after).


    But those he know where are they ? Where is the arc right now and stuff... but whatever - he wasn't sucked up for a reason, because he is powerful.
    Or because he wasn't close enough. Allen was sucked in because he was really close to Rinari when she was taken (he was holding her hand), and Rabi was right behind Allen. Crowley, Chaoji and Kanda were probably nearby too. The door/gate/whatever probably just closed because of time limits. If all the less powerful Exorcists were meant to be sucked in, why not Bookman or Mari?

    hahahaha
    You're just a man, I don't expect you to be right.

    ..and that's how he was kiddnaped for the 756 time.
    I bet it felt like he was dying inside. But no, my hair won't go to see a movie with you.


    It could be..
    I love this theory now. =D Amazing what can happen when you have nothing to do but think. (So Rinari is either going to have to consciously change her behaviour as the result of knowing, or somehow manage to do it without thinking. Of course, that means that when she gets back to the Order, Hevlaska will know...)
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    naah, I'm tired. I will just end it the same way as always
    Allen should die - slowly and painfully.

 

 
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