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    That would be totally lame... and it's not like Chaoji can't just be evil. No one ever said he was a nice person, after all. Of course, if he IS being controlled, that would make it more difficult for Tiki to be in a similar situation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolox View Post
    naah - in the end it will be explained that it wasn't Chaozi but someone took control over him (the Noah of Pleasure gives advices : KILL HIM !!)
    I will go with the being controlled, since it was too sudden IMO, but if thats how he is then whatever.

    (The funny thing is that he was nearest to the door when he "started his opinion")

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    Well, the door is gone now... and if he IS being controlled, that's kind of lame, as I said. Not all bad/evil personalities can be attributed to Road; many people thought that Evil Lavi was created by her, or being controlled by her, and it turned out that he wasn't. So maybe...

    Two weeks until we find out, I guess.
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    When I think about it - Evil Lavi acted the way bookman shouldn't act, completely the opposite of what he was doing before.

    If he was acting like true bookman he would
    - not attack Allen, since it would intervene with history writing process
    - don't protect Road, since it would also intervene with observing history.
    - ...do absolutely nothing - just refuse to the fact that Allen is his nakama and don't help Rinali, don't socialize with Road
    - fight with Road/Allen only if they threaten his existence

    So the evil Lavi wasn't completely true Lavi, but just a little part of him which was brought up by Road and became dominate.

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    We don't know for sure that it was Evil Lavi who attacked Allen, though. It's assumed, but he was just hanging around the rest of the time... not really caring. He also didn't protect Road, he just stared at her the entire time that he was whining at Rabi. (Actually, he blew off her head. That's kind of in character since he's just showing Rabi that a Bookman shouldn't care about blots of ink.)

    All that Evil Lavi did was stand around and whine to Rabi about how he shouldn't care about these people or ask questions or anything. Even attacking/killing is something he'd do - more than protecting, anyway. If they're so unimportant in the world, killing them won't have an impact; however, it will teach Rabi that he needs to act like a Bookman, which is absolutely necessary.
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    Probably the reason why Reverse Lavi wanted to kill Allen and the others was to severe Lavi's bonds; therefore, Lavi would be able to behave like a real Bookman, once they were gone.


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    That's what I thought, Dante. In that case, he wouldn't really be out of character at all, especially since he doesn't see them as important. (I forgot that you post here. Or did you, before now?)
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    I think Chaozi is an idiot ....Anyway Allens innosence is meant to save humans and Akuma through exorsism if a human cant understand that what Allens innosence destroyed was the demon who had possesed the human ,wtf is he doing ther...

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    Actuall, Noah aren't like possessed - they choosed to be Noah by the own free will - so Chaozi actually has a point, they are enemies.
    But they also are mislead by Earl and they were told that the true monster are Exorcist and that they way is wrong. It's all about taking sides and ideology.

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    Chaoji is an idiot for being so useless in the past chapters, that's all.

    Again, we can't say for sure that the Noah are the "bad guys" and the Exorcists are the "good guys" except for the fact that they're the antagonists and protagonists. Both sides are completely human, and can't change what they're fighting for (with the exception of the non-Exorcists... who can).

    As for Allen's Innocence, Chaoji just saw that it did something to Tiki that killed the Noah part, but it didn't KILL him. Chaoji wants Tiki dead; therefore, since Allen did not kill the bad guy and wants to save the bad guy, Allen is also a bad guy. He even said that he thought Allen had killed Tiki.

    Whatever makes a Noah a Noah is no less of a possession than the Innocence. That's like saying that when Tiki destroyed Allen's Innocence, he destroyed a possessing demon (and that actually might not be too far off considering how it didn't want to go away). Allen ALSO did not want to give up what he was.

    If you take out Allen (who seems to be the only character in the manga who wants to do everything possible to save all humans) and Rinari (since she's starting to think like Allen), the Exorcists and Noah really aren't that different, except that they're fighting each other. They're humans who care about their friends and beliefs to the point where they're willing to kill and accept the deaths of humans. That's just it.
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