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    @ Tsi: I actually think that it would be better to start a new thread on this matter since it has nothing to do with chapter 120 and is a good enouth topic for its' own thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon
    No, but you threatened to kill me. T_T
    I could say: "Nooo, you misunderstood, i just wanted to cut your hair a bit with senbonzakura" but I won't.

    Really, the same goes for anyone when you look at it that way. Allen could die and they'd STILL be fighting akuma and Noah.
    He is special since he really is a main character. But yeah, everyone else could easily die. Evem Linalee since it is not romance manga after all...

    *shrugs*
    *cough*

    Um, yeah, I don't read Russian. XD Road said his other self (heart) was dead, and I don't see why she'd lie - or not go in there to finish the job herself, if it wasn't dead.
    Thats just that this phrase of hers is way too vague to be understood directly. For the answer i suggest to wait for next chapter.

    1) Rinari's the naive one there. ._.
    2) Rabi could go the Yakumo way and give up everything and shock the readers lik the death of Onigiri....
    1) ....and like fucken hell too (sorry, i just like the sound of this phrase for some reason. Like Samuel Clemens said, this words "sound like a music").

    Which could just mean he isn't going to play an important role in changing it.
    Thats just that it's rather hard to fight and kill Noah without changing history and the same time.

    Weird, my translation doesn't say anything about not being able to interfere. I understood it as "don't get too attached", because Rabi CAN'T be with them. If he really isn't human - if he's something else that possibly does have a long life - it's for his own good, too. He also says don't get caught up in the war, but that could also mean that Rabi will become too emotional and forget about his job.
    As i recall it is not said directly. But by this "don't get too attached" it is said that he shouldn't grow any feeling so that he wil not feel a thing while letting them die. So that he can prevent interfering.

    Yeah... At least Road is... sort of helping it? I mean, she's exploiting his feelings, that's mean!
    Yeah, it is so, she is sort of helping. Dunno intentionally or not though. KNowing her, it may be on purpose.

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    I took your advice - Now their is a random question thread.

    I feel sorry for Allen having to make the choice. What is Hoshino sensei going to do to resolve this? She could maybe have Lavi find the light by wrestling with himself. But his heart is Dead so Allen might have to actually kill his friend.

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    I hope Lavi will be the one to overcome his feares and defeat Road without any help (for already explained reasons).

    And there is a possibility that Allen will have to kill him....but to my mind it is just too low one. Friend killing friend don't happen in shounens offenly, so if it occured here it would like break the laws of genre, which DGM never did before. Well, he may do it for the first time now, but still I don'think i'll happen.

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    Well as Road explained, his friend Lavi is dead. The Bookman's apprentice is there but Lavi is gone. He's a shell of what's left. He's not killing his friend since he's already dead.

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    For Allen to be a grandpa, he needs to get married first. ^^;;

    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    I could say: "Nooo, you misunderstood, i just wanted to cut your hair a bit with senbonzakura" but I won't.
    Like hell! You told me to run or else. T_T

    He is special since he really is a main character. But yeah, everyone else could easily die. Evem Linalee since it is not romance manga after all...
    If Rinari died, I don't think the manga would last much longer.

    *cough*
    *blank look*

    Thats just that this phrase of hers is way too vague to be understood directly. For the answer i suggest to wait for next chapter.
    I guess, although I doubt it will be answered... there's still nearly a week to go, anyway.

    1) ....and like fucken hell too (sorry, i just like the sound of this phrase for some reason. Like Samuel Clemens said, this words "sound like a music").
    Which was that said about?

    Thats just that it's rather hard to fight and kill Noah without changing history and the same time.
    Then maybe he's not supposed to fight and kill NOAH... and maybe he won't.

    As i recall it is not said directly. But by this "don't get too attached" it is said that he shouldn't grow any feeling so that he wil not feel a thing while letting them die. So that he can prevent interfering.
    But it could also mean that they're going to die anyway. Rabi wonders if they'll just be forgotten eventually, too - which reminded me of some story about someone who lived a really long time and didn't want to be with anyone because they'd suffer when that other grew old and died. Even if that's not the case, Rabi still has duties besides being an Exorcist - the other's don't. Rabi may have to leave them anyway.

    Yeah, it is so, she is sort of helping. Dunno intentionally or not though. KNowing her, it may be on purpose.
    Which makes no sense because she's supposed to like Allen, yet she's done nothing to hurt her competition. .______.

    I definitely want to see Allen kill Rabi - and to hell with what's usual in the genre! D.Gray-Man didn't begin as a usual shounen, and I'd love to see plot twists that keep it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsi
    Well as Road explained, his friend Lavi is dead.
    Should i repost what i already posted once in this thread? (thisa is question, no irony here).
    He's a shell of what's left. He's not killing his friend since he's already dead.
    For Allen its still the same - killing friend. A huge problem for allmankind saver.

    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon
    Like hell! You told me to run or else. T_T
    Or else you will be bald.
    If Rinari died, I don't think the manga would last much longer.
    Technically it can still go on. Though would be too much of a shit of course.
    *blank look*
    *scatter...*
    Which was that said about?
    Linalee being naive.
    Then maybe he's not supposed to fight and kill NOAH... and maybe he won't.
    He will have to, looking at how DGM is about helping your friends.
    But it could also mean that they're going to die anyway. Rabi wonders if they'll just be forgotten eventually, too - which reminded me of some story about someone who lived a really long time and didn't want to be with anyone because they'd suffer when that other grew old and died. Even if that's not the case, Rabi still has duties besides being an Exorcist - the other's don't. Rabi may have to leave them anyway.
    Bookmen do not know about what will happen, so i doubt that is means what you said. He knows that they will be forgotten since Bookman record history that is not for everyone, so there is no way for normal people to know what really is goin on.

    And just leaving your friends has a different feeling with letting them die, I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    Should i repost what i already posted once in this thread? (thisa is question, no irony here).

    For Allen its still the same - killing friend. A huge problem for allmankind saver.
    But he has to do it to become an evil character!

    Or else you will be bald.
    Uwaaa! *runs away crying* You're so evil now, I don't recognize you!

    Technically it can still go on. Though would be too much of a shit of course.
    I think we'd see Allen go crazy and kill everything... so not much longer. ^^;;

    *scatter...*
    *confused*

    Linalee being naive.
    Okay then. She really is so... although for Komui to send her off with Allen AND Rabi and not be concerned?!

    He will have to, looking at how DGM is about helping your friends.
    It is? I thought it was all about one-on-one pwnage now. XD That's what it's become, anyway. Kanda, Crowley, and Allen didn't ask for any help in their battles and didn't receive any.

    Bookmen do not know about what will happen, so i doubt that is means what you said. He knows that they will be forgotten since Bookman record history that is not for everyone, so there is no way for normal people to know what really is goin on.

    And just leaving your friends has a different feeling with letting them die, I suppose.
    Possibly, although it's hard to know if there were other meanings since we don't know about the Bookman thing. It seems to me like he meant that the legend will be known, but not the people behind it - although the way he said that line, it made me think that he will be the only one to remember them eventually, because he is a Bookman.

    Leaving your friends is different, yes, but it still causes lots of pain. Also, maybe the Bookman pair won't be Exorcists forever - they have equipment-types, so it's probably possible to leave it behind. They won't be risking their lives like the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digital_Eon View Post
    But he has to do it to become an evil character!
    Wow, this kind of development will be really rare - having main character turn into evil guy - nah, Hoshino is not good enough to do this. She is not ready to wright her own Death Note now.

    Uwaaa! *runs away crying* You're so evil now, I don't recognize you!



    I think we'd see Allen go crazy and kill everything... so not much longer. ^^;;
    But he has to do it to become an evil character!
    *confused*
    *evil look*

    Okay then. She really is so... although for Komui to send her off with Allen AND Rabi and not be concerned?!
    Well, looking at how Komui is going to sell her to a brothel later it id OK, isn't it? He needs her to be ready for the real work after alll.

    It is? I thought it was all about one-on-one pwnage now. XD That's what it's become, anyway. Kanda, Crowley, and Allen didn't ask for any help in their battles and didn't receive any.
    Because they all were simply left behind. And they all have at least one Noah against them. Rabi has one too.

    Possibly, although it's hard to know if there were other meanings since we don't know about the Bookman thing. It seems to me like he meant that the legend will be known, but not the people behind it - although the way he said that line, it made me think that he will be the only one to remember them eventually, because he is a Bookman.
    Maybe.

    Leaving your friends is different, yes, but it still causes lots of pain. Also, maybe the Bookman pair won't be Exorcists forever - they have equipment-types, so it's probably possible to leave it behind. They won't be risking their lives like the others.
    *shrugs* I dount that it is that easy to leave innocent behind, just look at what happened to Allen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    Wow, this kind of development will be really rare - having main character turn into evil guy - nah, Hoshino is not good enough to do this. She is not ready to wright her own Death Note now.
    I don't know... there are moments when I'm reminded of Death Note with the art. But really, I think D.Gray-Man could do it. It had the dark opening, and it would make this black-and-white part of the manga into something that was good, instead of moving into boring average shounen manga.

    But he has to do it to become an evil character!
    What does being evil have to do with Rinari dying?

    *evil look*
    *nervous sweatdrop*

    Well, looking at how Komui is going to sell her to a brothel later it id OK, isn't it? He needs her to be ready for the real work after alll.
    WHAAAT? o_o Well, he still failed - Allen, at least, would never let that happen to her. He'd probably kidnap her and run off somewhere.

    Because they all were simply left behind. And they all have at least one Noah against them. Rabi has one too.
    Yeah, and everyone else wanted to stay with them and help, but the fighters wouldn't let that happen. Also, Road is facing three Exorcists; she could just as easily be fighting Rinari (who probably stands an equally good chance, seeing as how Road's one attack is pretty sad).

    *shrugs* I dount that it is that easy to leave innocent behind, just look at what happened to Allen.
    Allen has a parasitic type, and it's unusual for that, too. As far as we know, there's no reason why someone couldn't just leave their equipment-type Innocence somewhere else (Miranda wasn't attached to that clock, for instance, and probably still isn't - but she can control it now).
    ~Digital_Eon~




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    ....................ok then O_O

 

 
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