Thread: Chapter 116 Discussion

Downloading the third ending single right now...

Do we even have spoilers for 117?

No spoilers yet... not from mangahelpers anyways =)
Just wait for the chapter to come out.

It's usually out by Friday night anyway (the raw, that is). Wait a few days~ I know it's been two weeks, but I've TRIED to keep this subforum alive.

So excited to see what happens next. Will we see Emo Rabi again, I wonder. The sexiness. <3 (Although DGM is full of that in recent months, ahahaha.)

All I'll say is I'm really interested in seeing how Allen manages to wield a sword, especially one of that size. Not exactly what he's familiar with, I'm sure.

Shounen Jump manga are famous for having characters who look like they've never used a sword in their lives yet somehow manage to defeat enemies with a really big one. The fact that it's really his arm might help with coordination, though.

...but I don't think he'll use it that well. It's Kanda's weapon and it would just be too convenient if Allen won a battle now.

(YESASIA HAS VOLUME 11 *does the happy dance* I'll have it by next weekend!)

Originally Posted by shiitsu

If Allen is the Heart, what is to happen to Lenalee?
The back up? I doubt it, but it would be nice to know what is to happen to her.

Well, in terms of Innocence properties, it seems like the Heart would need to be, in a way, vulnerable -- which Allen's Innocence is most certainly not, since it appears to be indestructible (which would actually be a good property for a core Innocence). Now Lenalee's Innocence would appear to be vulnerable, since it apparently has to protect its host, making it a more likely candidate for Heart (if it is indeed destructible as the Earl and Noahs think).

However, I'm more inclined to think that they're both two halves of a whole. Since the original Innocence cube was broken up into 109 pieces, it's not a stretch to think that the Heart in that cube might have been broken into two as well. In a way, it's like Yin and Yang -- black and white, white and black -- like their respective colour-reversed dreams. One has perfect defense (Lenalee's) and the other is immortal (Allen's); put them both together and they'd make a very respectable Heart.

Originally Posted by Digital_Eon

*I always suspected Allen would become a General, but... not this soon. It's cool. Now that it seems like there *must* be five - I'm taking bets on when Tiedoll is going to die, anyone? ^_^

I don't think there necessarily needs to be 5 generals. After all, passing the 100% synchronization barrier seems to be the only requirement for the status, and it's all up to the person. The existence of 5 generals wouldn't have interfered with Allen's determination to synchronize with his Innocence at that moment.

Originally Posted by Digital_Eon

Kanda and Crowley are dead; Miranda said so. It's almost certain that Allen and Rabi will die, too (probably by being left in the crumbling Ark). That's Rinari's dream.

Well, Miranda only said that she no longer felt their "time". However, that doesn't necessarily mean that they're dead ... only that she can't feel them. If they were transported with the Ark, into some sort of alternate dimension (given that the times the rooms were downloaded may have coincided with her perceptions), then it's possible that that is how she lost contact with their "time".

Allen's Innocence DID get destroyed, and it also has protected its owner (multiple times), although in a different way. I do think that because they're both weird, being two halves makes much more sense; I've thought that for a while. ^_^ Plus it'd just be cooler that way... having the hero and heroine with equal abilities and all.

The 5 generals part could just mean that no one can go past 100% unless there's a space for a general. I guess the Innocence would somehow know...?

If Miranda can feel people's time when they're in the Ark and Road's dimensions, I can't imagine where anyone would go where she CAN'T feel their time.

Does that really mean that there only can 5 Generals at the same time? This would be...well....kinda stupid because the other Generals would have to be get rid of, so that others can improve....

Let's just face it: They're dead. Doesn't mean they won't come back somehow

That's what I *thought*. It makes sense, too... well, Tiedoll is kind of asking to die, now, and we do have another person needing a power-up. As for the others, we don't have anyone who could possibly be a new general... that's assuming anyone besides Allen (and Rinari? Well...) would actually have powerful Innocence.

Exactly. Being dead is a lot cooler than going off somewhere, anyway.

But Tiedoll isn't dead yet. And he has to be alive...for the ones that are still outside. Not that it really means he has to stay alive....

It's just bad that we won't hear of them for a pretty LONG time....