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    I also just edited the comment.

    Keep Sticky.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetnubis View Post
    Ha ha, one word Sperm. Hypocrite.
    People also don't like it when their C&C are ignored. It's what I call the Deviant Art complex, guesses to why I call it that.


    Remember what I said about putting a limit on creativity?
    Who the hell do you think you are? You make sigs Sperm. Website signatures! You dare to insult the people who spend time and effort into something that takes more skill. If you don't like it, get the fuck off this site, especially if your going to carry this attitude. I will not allow you to demean other people because of your jaded personal opinion on art, especially on this site.

    I'm not getting into this but if you want it removed as a sticky put it to a vote. Post in bold either "Unsticky" or "Keep sticky" in this thread.

    Lastly, I see what you mean about having a 'creative section' with sub-categories. I'll humor your idea, and see if it is possible to try it out. But the fact that this is, as you know a Manga site, and not an art site I can't see anything changing.

    And Zen, with all due respect, you can shut up. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, and your stupid little images add nothing to this discussion, besides your own idiocy. I respect your opinion on the subject but there are better ways to get a point across.

    What about before you came to this site? Huh? It is and was the normal to long time members, what does unstickying do? Maybe make it a bumpable topic... Thats all I think.

    Sperm was not saying the same thing as you, you clearly stated that having it was pointless in your opinion. He was suggesting a completely different idea, that being a new layout for a creative section. Now I could be wrong, but it looks like your just following suit. You may have had this idea too, but you didn't express it.

    And this is where I get off saying that you don't know what your talking about. Because of that sticky people don't create new threads to show sigs.
    Originally the thread was not used for C&C, it was just to show off your creations in the Chit Chat section, no matter how good or bad they were.

    And when people do create threads, to show off their new sigs, I do not delete them. I wonder how I know this? Put your keyboard down till you know what your talking about, and stop trying to make your point via stupid images. Now

    Erm, you sir, have no clue what you are talking about. You didn't even read my first post, or sperms first post in this topic. WE NEVER SAID UNSTICKY! Hit ctrl+F, and type sticky. And yes, yes you do. I recall the first time I posted a sig in a new topic here. It was immediately deleted after 2 pages of bitching for not putting it in the stupid topic. So please, put your keyboard down tet. If you're going to be so far up your own ass as to not realize why there isn't a single sig topic in this forum besides "your signatures =3", you CLEARLY shouldn't be a mod here in the first place. Anyway, I'm with pax on this one, and this will probably be my last post in this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sperm worm View Post
    basically i'm saying the Creative Works section here is worthless. Anyone talented with GFX or art in the slightest peaces out, because there's nothing for them here. all you do is draw manga characters, and call it "art."
    I'm not even going into what's wrong with this. It's stupid to say the least, I mean, IGNORE what the main point of this website is why don't you? If you had a forum for a specific game and that forum had an art section, what do you think the prominent type of drawings are?

    Quote Originally Posted by sperm worm View Post
    it's not creative in the slightest. also, there's a bunch of you who THINK you know design. then, you give critiques based on it. all of it worthless, yet again. also, it's kind of a royal pain in the ass. i started giving real c&c a while back. what happened? i got bitched out by some of you who cant give nor take real C&C. thats WHY your art sucks. cause no one ever TELLS you that it does! doesnt help that the mods dont know anything about art either.
    Because creativity is what YOU make of it. Whether it's drawing manga characters, writing fan fictions or making sigs everyone has a different view on creativity. That's just art in general.

    Also, you're just as bad as the people you critiqued if you can't ignore them for bitching at you. If you give someone a critique and they can't take it, fuck 'em, don't get all pissy about some ungrateful idiots.

    Quote Originally Posted by sperm worm View Post
    And if you get all offended and start bitching again, i really dont care. I'm sick and tired of "being nice" and lying about C&C just so your little emo heart wont get broke. grow some balls, people. You cant just GIVE out C&C that says this sucks, this doesnt work, and not get any in return. especially when your skill level is so low.
    Wow, you lie when you critique? That's stupid, if you have to lie when you critique you're doing it wrong. If you can't find a way to be constructive then you're just gonna sound like an asshole, if you can't find a way to critique effectively you're just an ass kisser.

    Also Tet, didn't I call it the Deviant Art effect? lol LOL yeh. - TET

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    Erm, you sir, have no clue what you are talking about. You didn't even read my first post, or sperms first post in this topic. WE NEVER SAID UNSTICKY! Hit ctrl+F, and type sticky. And yes, yes you do. I recall the first time I posted a sig in a new topic here. It was immediately deleted after 2 pages of bitching for not putting it in the stupid topic. So please, put your keyboard down tet. If you're going to be so far up your own ass as to not realize why there isn't a single sig topic in this forum besides "your signatures =3", you CLEARLY shouldn't be a mod here in the first place. Anyway, I'm with pax on this one, and this will probably be my last post in this forum.
    Did you really just say there isn't a single topic in this forum apart from the sig one? That's being literal, you don't have to say something to imply something else. And saying the sig thread has got to go ultimately means you unsticky it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenkaiu View Post
    Erm, you sir, have no clue what you are talking about. You didn't even read my first post, or sperms first post in this topic. WE NEVER SAID UNSTICKY! Hit ctrl+F, and type sticky. And yes, yes you do. I recall the first time I posted a sig in a new topic here. It was immediately deleted after 2 pages of bitching for not putting it in the stupid topic. So please, put your keyboard down tet. If you're going to be so far up your own ass as to not realize why there isn't a single sig topic in this forum besides "your signatures =3", you CLEARLY shouldn't be a mod here in the first place.
    Oh wow, again Zen, following suit, rather than having your own thing to say, you basically repeat what I say to suit your defence. Its OK, I forgive you for being defensive.

    Don't be so literal, the title of this topic is, "The signature thread has to go".
    Now, this leaves three obvious options for me. Delete it, Unsticky it, or keep it.
    I am not deleting it, so what options am I left with?

    Rate my sig - Did my research.

    Obviously the circumstance was different, no? Is that your only reason for me not being a moderator of this section, because of something I had nothing to do with?
    I think not, because of the word' Clearly'. Care to point out any other inconsistency's with my moderation of this section? I'll be glad to admit to them.
    What is wrong with having one Signature thread in one subforum anyway? Heck, if you all wanted an expansion of the forum. ASK.

    Anyway, I'm with pax on this one, and this will probably be my last post in this forum.
    You. Don't. Say.

    Sperm, Zen, Keep in mind, I don't hate you, or your ideas. I just hate how you try to impose your personal feelings on everybody and the way you went about doing this. You shot first.


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    keep sticky

    I don't know what you guys are talking about but the sig thread was only there to show off your new sigs... you get better in private and then you go ka-pow my new sig. It's really nice to see how everyon has evolved over the year. You can see how chuu's style has changed and how bam got really good really fast, and how steal worked his ass off to make his beautiful sigs. There is no way I'd move the sig thread. It's historical.

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    This thread was pointed out to me, and it's rather interesting. It kinda reminds me of when this one prick told someone in Tech Support that they should ask on an actual computer oriented forum as they couldn't possibly get the answer on a manga forum. :P

    But I might as well point out that I don't believe (someone should probably check me on this, as it's comming from the back of my head, and that area is kinda dusty) Vbulletin wasn't really originally made to have sub-forums. Instead it has blocks, as you can see on the front page. That ability has been added, but if I remember right, it's still not very good (also, you have to enable sub-forums in VB... change a 0 to a 1 in the config).

    The forum pictured above is using the Blocks system of VB... or some other software that looks a looooooot like VB. The main purpose of ST is manga, so you will pretty much NEVER get the forum above out of this site. The use of the sub-forums is a possibility, but you might not enjoy it. You'll have to go into creative works, then go into one of the sections within, THEN you will see threads.

    If anyone wants to actually try that, throw it in Feedback and we'll see what we can do.
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    Words cannot describe the impossible irony and hypocrisy going on here. SpermWorm YOU with formerly some of the shittiest sigs on this site, pops up gets a new style and whores it into oblivion are bitching at us because we saw you for what you were and wouldnt put up with youre arrogant rants? ... You must be out of your fucking mind. No offense but lately ever since you got youre new smudge style youve gone off the deep end in narcissism like you make the greatest sigs in the world and no one else is worthy of commenting on them unless they're lauding them like the fucking Mona Lisa. We THINK we know design? Fuck that shit Csutibea has far more "design" skills than you could ever dream of wishing of having. Yeah you're right though, if no one tells you your art needs work you wont get any better, so why is it YOU you fucking hypocrite that swear up and down when we give you negative comments that we dont know what were talking about and that our opinion doesn't matter. FUCK. THAT. SHIT. You dont wanna be here stfu and gtfo


    ...and a last peice of advice Mr. I-photoshop-8-pack-abs-on-my-pictures-to-fake-being-cool, learn some fucking humility, you'll go alot further.

    Zen, Ive never had a problem or negative thought about you, but youre following sperm for reasons unbeknownst to me. I understand what it is you want no matter how badly you worded it. Desticky the thread and give each sig or whatever-it-is own thread for C&C. I've wanted the same thing for a while now. Now why everyone is misunderstanding that is blah, but if this is truly the end of you now, dont be an asshole wherever it is you go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sperm worm View Post
    basically i'm saying the Creative Works section here is worthless. Anyone talented with GFX or art in the slightest peaces out, because there's nothing for them here. all you do is draw manga characters, and call it "art."

    it's not creative in the slightest. also, there's a bunch of you who THINK you know design. then, you give critiques based on it. all of it worthless, yet again. also, it's kind of a royal pain in the ass. i started giving real c&c a while back. what happened? i got bitched out by some of you who cant give nor take real C&C. thats WHY your art sucks. cause no one ever TELLS you that it does! doesnt help that the mods dont know anything about art either.

    And if you get all offended and start bitching again, i really dont care. I'm sick and tired of "being nice" and lying about C&C just so your little emo heart wont get broke. grow some balls, people. You cant just GIVE out C&C that says this sucks, this doesnt work, and not get any in return. especially when your skill level is so low.

    Now, i'm sorry for the rant. but it just had to be said.
    Fuck you. I made a thread about our sig thread a while back and NOONE COMMENTED. I even did it NICER than you.. fuck you. and your high-flouting ways.


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    keep sticky
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetnubis View Post
    Sperm, Zen, Keep in mind, I don't hate you, or your ideas. I just hate how you try to impose your personal feelings on everybody and the way you went about doing this. You shot first.
    yes you did shot first.. and I am truely starting to lose any respect I once had. I probably feel more sorry for that than you do. You're not our king, you don't stop to think that other ways of art could be valid or good. so I say Fuck you. =_=

    EDIT: I DARE you to respond to this post or my other thread... noone responds to me, so I challenge anyone to, weither you agree or not.
    Last edited by silverwmoon; 06-07-2007 at 07:22 PM.

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    @Zenkaiu- I don't know why you're angry or offended, but you could have avoided this if you had worded things differently. Plus if you wanted everyone's opinion on it why didnt you make a poll?

    @sperm_worm- If you thought something could use work, you don't have to say its crap or looks like shit, you could just give advice on how you think they could make it better.

    @Tetnubis- I actually don't think it's a bad idea if you unstickied it, it might cause it to get bumped every now and then but I dont think it would be a bad if it were to get bumped once in a while. Ever since the "Post Your Artwork" got unstickied things are a little bit easier to manage imo. If the thread were to be unsticked people could make their own threads with their own stuff so I don't think it would be too bad. Actually now that I think about it you could just make it so that people are allowed to make their own thread for signatures and the whole issue would be gone.

    So I'm going to say Keep Sticky if people can't make their own thread.

    If they are allowed to make their own thread then Unsticky.
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    So your post is useless then? Sorry for being so abrasive but lets face it, it is. I don't think you followed the thread properly.

    @Zenkaiu- I don't know why you're angry or offended, but you could have avoided this if you had worded things differently. Plus if you wanted everyone's opinion on it why didnt you make a poll?
    He didn't want opinions, he wanted to point out how pointless he thought the thread was. And its not the wording of his first couple of posts, its the blatant ignorance on his part, by jumping the gun with his sig master, and posting idiotic irrelevant images.

    @Tetnubis- I actually don't think it's a bad idea if you unstickied it, it might cause it to get bumped every now and then but I dont think it would be a bad if it were to get bumped once in a while. Ever since the "Post Your Artwork" got unstickied things are a little bit easier to manage imo. If the thread were to be unsticked people could make their own threads with their own stuff so I don't think it would be too bad. Actually now that I think about it you could just make it so that people are allowed to make their own thread for signatures and the whole issue would be gone.
    Again, with "Post your artwork". Was there ever a decrease of personal art threads when people posted their art? I think not.
    I don't think its a bad idea either, but what would be the point? I unstick a thread so the same people can bump it. Its the same situation with whatever I do with it. And by now pointing that out I'm showing the redundancy of this whole thing.

    People are allowed to create personal art threads to show off just their work. I made this point earlier.

    So I'm going to say Keep Sticky if people can't make their own thread.

    If they are allowed to make their own thread then Unsticky.
    Now this is the main reason I commented. It is a vote. You vote for one choice. Not two.

    Just edit your vote please.


 

 
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