Claymore Chapter 83

**reinard-fox** · 09-26-2008, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by ranteil

It's sci-fi/fantacy no need to over think it.

Thats what i was saying earlier....

Originally Posted by ranteil

As far as people saying that if Clair will suck if she doesn't make nice with Pris because of Raki, well this is still simular to Berserk in some respects. Our main charactor has had something life changing happen in their life, and refuses to let it go. Thus it becomes a sore subject for them and they become something to deal with it. It is a classic plot device that is used all over the place and I for one would like to see the "sad" plot line on it pull though. Over all I think that giving Clair a point where she makes the wrong decision at a critical point about the main thing she cares about could turn the story in a way that would be rewarding for us all.

Indeed its a classic plot, and yeah, it may make manga way more sore shoudl she kill Pris in front of Raki thus destroying their relationship. But this will pretty much destroy all the development she has revieved starting from chapter 1 where she have met Raki, turning her from human who she is right now, and who she was trying to become all this time, arguing against all "claymores are monstres" theme, into avenger and monster, just like Pris and Ophelia. I don't see this being logical at all.

**KyokushiNanaya** · 09-26-2008, 11:16 PM

I agree with reinard, although i do believe killing Pris would be a bit much of a waste I also believe that they should atleast fight in some way but not kill each other of course. Then if Clare wins maybe she can put a closure to her hatred towards Priscilla... without killing her. Besides a lot of fans are still saying "Kill that bitch that killed teressa! GRRR!" I don't think the mangaka would turn a deaf ear to that, so maybe we're going to see an encounter.

**nroejb** · 09-27-2008, 05:36 AM

I dont think that clare could beat priss just now anyway. I guess she may attack her and somehaow survive (alone? together with both companions?) but she will not beat priss now, if she really messes up with her. I guess pris is the last problem to be solved, first on program are the organization and Riful.
(I am happy to somehow see one of my favourites, rafaela, again)

**KyokushiNanaya** · 09-27-2008, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by nroejb

I dont think that clare could beat priss just now anyway. I guess she may attack her and somehaow survive (alone? together with both companions?) but she will not beat priss now, if she really messes up with her. I guess pris is the last problem to be solved, first on program are the organization and Riful.
(I am happy to somehow see one of my favourites, rafaela, again)

That's true but you are forgetting some factors. 1. Pris hasn't eaten for years because of Raki (it affected her size then it may have also affected her powers). This will give clare a slight hope or maybe even an edge. 2. Clare has shown us many times that she can jump over a wall of .1% chance. There's no reason for her not to be able to do it again. 3. Raki's there, his presence may affect the outcome if there ever will be an encounter.

**nroejb** · 09-27-2008, 05:56 AM

We don´t know if they get weak if they don´t eat, there are still awakened ones in lifeless north. But the reason for my guess is not the significant difference of power, but the story flow. Priss is clares nemesis, so she will come last, thats my bet.

**KyokushiNanaya** · 09-27-2008, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by nroejb

We don´t know if they get weak if they don´t eat, there are still awakened ones in lifeless north. But the reason for my guess is not the significant difference of power, but the story flow. Priss is clares nemesis, so she will come last, thats my bet.

I think there's a mistake in that order you gave. Awakened beings exists in lifeless north, and that makes it an evidence that awakened beings dont weaken even when they're not eating. Yes that may be true but I have another way to put it in order and its like this: Because there are a LOT of awakened beings up north that's why it's lifeless... after all they were the unfortunate ones who received the full wrath of Priscilla until she was stopped by Isley, and as you said there are wayyyy many awakened beings there.

Back to the other topic, indeed we're not sure that awakened beings weaken when they aren't eating but I only said it may be a factor. So everything's still in a limbo. You're going all in with that bet? For me I bet that the organization will be their final nemesis and Clare and Pris would need to stand together to face them. (Maybe Beth and Alicia would learn how to both awaken without losing themselves. Now that's going to be a forbidable tag team)

**ranteil** · 09-27-2008, 04:51 PM

You also forget that Clair is living for two purposes right now. Raki is at the top, but she will not, dare I say cannot give up on Pris. To do so would to be dening everything up to and including Raki. Pris is what set Clair on this path, it is her goal, and she will fight her, that is a given. The question is what happens at that point, considering Raki is there too. I wrote my theory on this a few chapters back, feel free to look for it (not worth re-posting at this point).

As far as the whole eating for Awakened Ones I really have to agree with you in that I don't think that it affects their power.