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    does it really matter if he's a pedo or not? honestly I couldn't care any less if he doesn't appear anymore *sorry raki fans*

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    he has no role in this manga I think,just that clare is frantically searching for him for no apparent reason.


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    just the read the chapters. i wont waste time showing you a manga we've all read. i guess even with the exact panel you would imagine whatever you want and try to talk yourself out of it. you're hopeless. well i guess some people just read the manga a little to hastily.
    Roughly the type of answer I expected from you. Either way there's no such panel, so cut the crap.

    interpreting and speculating is one thing. you on the other hand stated that they ARE lovers.
    Yea, along 2x "he's my man" in manga/anime + almost every online info stating "lover". I follow what I read and/or see. If you haven't noticed, I don't insist on a single of looking at it.



    I guess there's no reason to dwell, yet again, in the rest - it's impossible to get to you either way. /me off from this sub-off-topic as well.



    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    Both of you cut it out. No one has any conclusive proof of anything and whining that Raki is pedo is just annoying and detracts from on-topic conversation thats actually relevant to things are canon in the manga.
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    Oki, back on topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by IAS
    So am guessing that the horrible truth behind Raki abnormal grow is not that horriblr after all. He work ouy in order to get his phisical traits to the same level of a regular claymore, probably Isley's plan. Just think that Raki has the phisical traits of Lebron James but upgraded cause hes taller than James.
    But dawm why did he have to use a claymore, it woud have been great if woud have used a longsword o a scimitar.
    If Raki was able to come to this level of speed / strength / etc. then why would he be the only non-claymore in existence capable of doing it. There should be bunch of mercenaries going around and specializing in killing regular yomas. Of course, pretty rare, but still. I realise good teacher (Isley) can do wonders, but won't turn his pupil into god (in human vs. yoma context).

    Otoh, the G7 team consists of half-yomas. And maybe certain techniques like windcutter can depend on that power, without "leaking" it out, if you see what I mean - "enhancing the natural sword movements without yoma energy release..." (Claymore 67 page 19 | One Manga). Similar comments regarding Miria's improved mirage (Claymore 67 page 16 | One Manga). In this interpretation - no "leaking" - no reuse limit. [ everything modulo translation accuracy ]
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    <quote>If Raki was able to come to this level of speed / strength / etc. then why would he be the only non-claymore in existence capable of doing it. There should be bunch of mercenaries going around and specializing in killing regular yomas. Of course, pretty rare, but still. I realise good teacher (Isley) can do wonders, but won't turn his pupil into god (in human vs. yoma context).</quote>

    _ The phisical difference between a 1,70 m person and a 2,30 m person its huge, it will be like comparing a teenager to an adult. I think you all are missing that.

    _ Nobody have mentioned so ill say it again, he just didnt kill the yoma he owned the yoma.

    _ Isley is the kind of guy that always has a plan ahead. And i think Isley is fully aware of the "human vs. yoma context" that you mention. He needs Raki around and he cant turn him into a yoma, cause priscila coud lose the interest in him there for hes loses control (and of course there are big chances that Raki don't resist the transformation). So he "prepare" Raki so hes able to keep up phisiclay with regular yoma and claymores too. Then he gains control over Raki (in this chapter he mention "my master", seems to be a comment about Isley) and retain control over Priscila, wich seems to be his real objetive.

    _ "but won't turn his pupil into god" certanly wont, but certanly nothing its absolute, and Isley nows. He nows the ways of the yoma, so he nows the "shortcuts". Basicly he aware of the yoma weakness and also and pretty important he nows the weakness of yoma power users (claymores). So ill woud not be surprised if Raki turns out to be the more tactical/technical character in the manga, along with Miria of course.

    _ Raki seems to be kind of a unique warrior, under the tutelage of one of better swordmans in the world, under the wing od priscila. Well if the elites of every country woud gather in one mercenary unit they will be able to deal with regular yomas, i mean regular yomas are good but not that much good, they only have the fiendish thing. Elites warrior have expirience, cunningness, superv conditions. I think the second its better combo of the two.
    Anyhow if they woud create this private company they woud be annihilated by the organization, i mean they surely don't want outsiders to ruin their test (btw since the start i allways have the impression that the organization leaders where demons...)

    Resuming Raki was lucky to find priscila, Isley is just aware, and priscila is still the X in the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msoltyspl View Post
    Roughly the type of answer I expected from you. Either way there's no such panel, so cut the crap.
    yes as expected from you. talking bullshit but beeing to lazy to read the manga.

    Yea, along 2x "he's my man" in manga/anime + almost every online info stating "lover". I follow what I read and/or see. If you haven't noticed, I don't insist on a single of looking at it.
    i wont explain it to you another time. like i said i wont waste anymore time to explain it to a moron like you. i've allready posted "my man" =/= my husband/lover. draw as much hasty conclusions as you like.
    you're a waste of time.



    well back to topic:

    Quote Originally Posted by IAS View Post
    (and of course there are big chances that Raki don't resist the transformation).
    if a transformation is even possible. rubal once said that clare was nearly to old for the transformation, considering that raki seemed to be older then clare was when she became a claymore, it might be impossible for raki to succesfully become one.

    Quote Originally Posted by IAS View Post
    he just didnt kill the yoma he owned the yoma
    well yes but the power levels in claymore really differ much. that yoma might not have been very strong at all or raki just got very strong for a mere human. (considering the fact that he trained by the former number one)
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    Quote Originally Posted by IAS View Post
    The phisical difference between a 1,70 m person and a 2,30 m person its huge, it will be like comparing a teenager to an adult. I think you all are missing that.
    Agreed, but if we took two well trained fighters (regular humans), then the stronger/heavier/taller would usually be slower as well. And speed is pretty important when we take on yomas.

    Quote Originally Posted by IAS View Post
    Nobody have mentioned so ill say it again, he just didnt kill the yoma he owned the yoma.
    Indeed. It also looked like he cut the hand of that yoma on purpose (to make the yoma reveal itself ? to have fun ?), instead of going directly at head, getting advantage of surprise (which a human trying to pull an unlikely win in such situation would probably do).

    I really do hope there's something, anything more to Raki than jest superb swordsman but regular human. I don't mean he's suddenly male claymore, but anything out of ordinary. I also hope he's not ignorant about of who Isley and Priscilla are, after 7 years. That would be just wrong.

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    Did you guys see the guards at the Great Catheral? They weren't match for it, but that one was a abnormal one, even though it not alot stronger, but it does stronger than normal Yoma.
    What I'm saying is, a skilled warrior will able to take on normal Yoma.
    And Raki can take of them, I suppose.
    But I don't think he will able to get stronger than a Claymore member. Unless he can become a Half-Yoma later on...
    I think this is a seriously dicussion, so, that's mean calling him a pedo is like.... "Raki has a gun, that can kill Yomas, and it his sercet weapon."
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    I agree with kid somewhat. Remember those brigands waaaaaay ago, in the Therese arc? They claimed they could take on youma, and I'm willing to take them at their word. It's possible that some humans have tried to, maybe even succeeded (the baddest of badasses, sure, but humans). However, Youma have one big advantage over normal humans that they lack vs Claymores - they can appear human. The girl on Raki's shoulder is the answer to that (at least, I think it's a girl), whoever she is.

    So I'd say Raki could be relatively normal - Badass normal, to use the Wikitrope term - and still pull the crazy stuff he did in his old village. As for who the girl is... I think it may be Priscilla or some new character. Not P's daughter, though - not by a long shot. Anyway, I'm kinda ambivalent about Raki being some kind of Gatts-wannabe, but I guess I can wait and see.
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    I have to agree with msoltyspl.
    Ferozban you live in a box. Do you think in the middle ages (the setting claymore's in) they cared about age? Back then living to see 50 was a miracle. Peasants rarely lived over 27. 27. can you imagine it, having lived over half of your life at age 14? Anyone who reached puberty was considered an adult and was good to marry. Even today the Rrom gypsies get married and have children at age 12-14. but this is a cultural thing, you wouldn't understand.
    Let's see a another perspective. It's a different world, anything is possible. For an example of different world, different rules, look at Code Geass R2 ep. 09. where Tianzi a child, aprox. 10 years old, is getting married to a guy in his 30's. (of course there's more to it, but this is not the place for it.)

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    Saying he is my man is way more than enough.

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    The real reason why there aren't any mercenary troops out to get yomas is because no-one but the organization's claymores can tell human apart from yoma. Imagine a band of 20 and suddenly people start dying., who do you kill, who is the yoma? There's no way you can tell, Yomas besides shape-shifting can also have ones memories so they literally will become the person they imitate, and no-one, not friend, nor wife nor children (Priscillas case) can tell them apart. This is where Rakis little friend comes in hand.

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    I really don't think the little girl is Priscilla. It's hard to imagine her being a so small. (not just the height.) It's far more believable that she's Priscilla's child (if that's even possible).
    He Had to lie in Rabona, after all, it's a city which hates anything that's supernatural. The girl being able to sense yoma clearly is something else, they would have been either killed or thrown out.
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