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    I'll say my opinion on cloning quickly so I don't start ranting about it:

    The possibility of two individuals having the exact same genetics exists naturally (identical twins - also triplets, etc.) until mutations occur. Mutations also occur in clones. Not only will a clone never remain exactly identical to another being, they will also be different in personality due to being raised differently, thinking differently, etc - things that are not controlled by DNA.

    It's natural. We're creating life. What's so wrong about that?

    (It's like saying artificial insemination is wrong. Which some of you might think it is. But that's my point.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakko
    Actually, I would be against genetic modification of yeast and grains. There used to be hundreds of varieties of each, but do to mass production in the last fifty years, it has fallen to less than ten varieties of each in abundance. This has hurt the nutrition and survivability in harsh conditions and against disease. The other varieties are now found rarely, in isolated parts of the world. We need to make them more plentiful and hybridize them with the more common varieties, to help them, instead of modifying them.
    Wouldn't genetic modification lead to the same results as regular hybridizing though? As far as I know the only difference is that genetic modification is faster.

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    No, genetic modification leads to much more controlled conditions and genetic uniformity, hampering genetic variety, and in several generations of this you would get the Habsburg form of grains, through mutation. Also, she was talking about modifying those common varieties of grains, not mixing them, which would be difficult and expensive regardless, and actually slower, becuase we would have to find out what each gene, allele, amino acid, and protien does before we would know how to properly modify them(We still have only classified about 1% of this). We still cannot do better than Mother Nature at mixing and matching in a beneficial way.

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    Bannana's are nummy....

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    hmmm i think cloning is a pretty bad idea actually after seeing all the films like the island lol i guess im not exactly old enough to put a serious opinion of anything but i guess if its just organs then itd be alright to heal liver disease and stuff but if you make whole humans then theres the whole emotions and human rights thing debate involved isnt there?
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    No, it wouldn't be alright to clone organs. From there, where would it stop? What if you needed several organs, or a new limb? What if you had a disease that wasted the body and in the (far) future we had the ability to transfer brains? Growing organs would inevitably lead to harvesting humans. If you open the door a little, the floodgates will open. Regardless, organs can only be grown from stem cells, and stem cells are almost exclusively found in babies in the wound. What would you do to harvest the amount of stem cells needed to be profitable? Would you use women as cattle to grow babies, and then kill them and take their tissue?(I am against abortion, but I don't think anyone wants to talk about that at the moment).

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    >_> Stem cell research is neat....

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    And barbaric, if you see how the stem cells are harvested.

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    tell us the story Uncle Jakko

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    Here's a helpful video(actually quite tame compared to some of the stuff they do):
    http://abortionismurder.org/HTML/I-A-4-video.html

    Basically, you have to kill(abort for the politically correct) the babies to harvest the tissue.
    Last edited by Jakko; 04-06-2006 at 08:56 AM.

 

 
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