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    This isn't about weight! It's about french law.

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    The labor law makes some sense actually, based on the current situation. It'll make a fluid labor market and open up some jobs. That's not to say that the fears are unfounded but just look at the current way hiring is done.

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    It does make sense. France will reap the benefits in the long run, but students have a point regarding lack of job security.

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    Well, job security is hurting the job market really. 26% of students who graduate are jobless. Job security is nice and all but the way I figure, as long as you do your job well, you won't get fired. (ignoring some disaster etc.) so job security is pretty much moot compared to the opportunities that will open up.

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    yes, i agree with you, but two years of lack of job security is too mutch!
    its not that i dont respect your opinion, i just dont want to hear it!


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    i dunno. With the law, It's not much different as other countries and they have smaller unemployment rates.

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    this is TWO THOUSAND AND SIX racism should not be around anymore or at least not in the calibur that it would make the news...
    SD, is it just me, or does the Boondocks comic strip you like so much seem more than a little racist?
    Or how about the story in Washington about the congresswoman who tried to walk through a Congress checkpoint without any identification and had changed her look and was not recognized by the police at the checkpoint, and was asked three times to stop by an officer, and when he stopped her, she attacked him. Her defense? The race card. The officer was obviously racist for doing his job and trying to protect her and everyone else in the building. I am tired of people talking about racism, when they themselves have racist tendancies. My point being, people should stop talking about racism, while supporting some groups that are also responsible for reverse racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoik
    yes, i agree with you, but two years of lack of job security is too mutch!
    yep, 2 years is way too much, but as you previously said, it has been changed to 1 year, which seems good ^^

    and the 2nd thing that i found unacceptable was the fact that the employer could fire his employee without writen reason >.>
    but it has been changed too, and now there are not a lot of reasons to be against the cpe.... i wonder why the demonstrations still go on


    @TheAbdicator : no, even if you do your work well you can be fired -_-
    it's the truest for job with low qualifications : it can be more interesting to fire employees and employ new ones than to keep the ancient ones (especially if the ancient one complain etc.)

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    Everyone is racist to certain degrees. Just those that are racist to obscene degrees are disgusting. You really can't do anything about that. There are still a lot of racist assholes. I'm ashamed to admit it but my some of my aunts and relatives are racist. I can't really change them or anything. It's just how they were raised and stuff. I still correct them now and then though.

    Quote Originally Posted by shautieh
    @TheAbdicator : no, even if you do your work well you can be fired -_-
    it's the truest for job with low qualifications : it can be more interesting to fire employees and employ new ones than to keep the ancient ones (especially if the ancient one complain etc.)
    I think you misunderstood my point -_- As long as you do your job well, that should be enough job security. Think. Why would someone fire you? Sure, there are unforseen incidents (bankruptcy, recession, etc.) but generally, as long as you do your job well enough, that should be enough for you.

    Just look at the low entry jobs in the US, they are the most fluid. Temp-ing and the fast food industry etc. Those people change everyday. It's hardly a bad thing. It helps businesses by making them more adaptable to economic trends.

    Think about it this way. You own an ice cream store. You can either hire 2 workers the whole year round or hire 2 in the winter(when business is slow) and hire two more in the summer(when it's the busiest). It makes sense from the employer's point of view. For the employee's even though they get fired, there are more opportunities available, since employers can hire more people depending on their needs.
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    i agree, but for jobs you are speaking about there is already the CDD, which is meant for people like the cream store owner (ie hire someone for 4 month in the summer)

    CPE is made for jobs in the "long run", not seasonal/temporary jobs

 

 
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