Science & Technology

Discussion thread. Intellectual discussion thread.

#1 The mimivirus. A "virus" so huge that it is more complex than many parisitic bacterium out there. And, it is suspected, of being a simple form of an entire new class of SRMs (Self-replicating-materia, i.e. life).

Apparently, viruses are not breakaways of life, but we are breakaways of viri.

My thoughts: This has the potential for being a gateway into real self-replcating nanobots. One's complex enough to have onboard computers capable of recieving and obeying directions. And that my friends, is one fucking massive feat for something a few billionths of the mass of your calculator, much less your 40 pound computer.

Another thought: If one of these complex viruses was to suddenly start re-aquirring it's self-repliation genes, it would be bad.

#2 Hyperdrive: A new and only just recently come to light mathmatical theory seems to show that creation of a "Drive" that allows shifting into other dimensions is possible.

My thoughts: At first I scoffed at the idea of something like this being discovered and made so easily, that it was just a hoax, but now, I'm pretty well convinced that the mathametical theory the "hyperdrive" is based on is sound, and therefore, the hyperdrive itself.

What I worry about is not the possibilty of getting somewhere faster than the speed of light in this dimension, but the means of getting there. And that really worries me. So we've just torn a hole through this dimension into another one. Great. But, what happens then? Do we suddenly have a massive rejection of the fundamental differences of these dimensions? Do we suddenly get a release of energy making the sudden and total release of all the energy in the galaxy look like a drop in an ocean? Do we suddenly have alien monsters pouring through to anhilate all matter? Does the gate work, but when we go through our baryonic matter distengrates in this foreign environment? Are we fine, but does it screw with the minds of the initial astronaughts so horribly that when they reemerge, they're already dead from total cessation of brain function? Are there unimagninable and horrible dangers lurking on the other side?

Not that I'm complaining, I'd probably volunteer to be the first one through, but, I've read way too much hard-sci-fi based in known and presumed assumptions on the basic fabric of the unverse, to not be extremly paranoid about the... possibilities.

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My thoughts: At first I scoffed at the idea of something like this being discovered and made so easily, that it was just a hoax, but now, I'm pretty well convinced that the mathametical theory the "hyperdrive" is based on is sound, and therefore, the hyperdrive itself.

What I worry about is not the possibilty of getting somewhere faster than the speed of light in this dimension, but the means of getting there. And that really worries me. So we've just torn a hole through this dimension into another one. Great. But, what happens then? Do we suddenly have a massive rejection of the fundamental differences of these dimensions? Do we suddenly get a release of energy making the sudden and total release of all the energy in the galaxy look like a drop in an ocean? Do we suddenly have alien monsters pouring through to anhilate all matter? Does the gate work, but when we go through our baryonic matter distengrates in this foreign environment? Are we fine, but does it screw with the minds of the initial astronaughts so horribly that when they reemerge, they're already dead from total cessation of brain function? Are there unimagninable and horrible dangers lurking on the other side?

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Umm, 1st i am not a scientist nor a smart guy, but I do have interest in science and tech. Reading about hyperdrive, is about jump from one space of dimension into a far far away side of dimension. My opinion is, it can be done... by non-human. I read somewhere from science magazine, that in order to shift into hyperdrive, a palm-sized ball needs to be rotated 1000/s with diameter of one meter. The experiment were conducted, that if succesful, that ball will move from a room to the next one. The experiment itself ended up in failure, because the rotated itself never reached 700/s after 100 tries. Now that's only a ball, how about a big space ship? No, no how how 'bout a human? (prepare a basket if you want to :D)

Well, by Einstein's theory of relativity, nothing with mass can go faster than the speed of light. That's the limit.
However, if one were to reverse the equation, one would find out that if one is traveling faster than the speed of light already, it would be impossible to slow down past the speed of light. In theory, this would be an entirely different dimension and universe than the one that we know.

So, if hyperdrive were to be possible, I believe it would have to be in this alternate universe where things travel faster than light.

... either your an idiot, or you can't read.

Nothing was said about exceding the lightspeed barier in this dimension/universe/what have you.

In another dimension, light could travel the distance of our universe in an instant, or it could take a millenia to cover the distance od a single atom.

The point is, it's an entirely DIFFERENT place, so you could be hauling ass one hell of a lot faster.

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Discussion thread. Intellectual discussion thread.

#1 The mimivirus. A "virus" so huge that it is more complex than many parisitic bacterium out there. And, it is suspected, of being a simple form of an entire new class of SRMs (Self-replicating-materia, i.e. life).

Apparently, viruses are not breakaways of life, but we are breakaways of viri.

My thoughts: This has the potential for being a gateway into real self-replcating nanobots. One's complex enough to have onboard computers capable of recieving and obeying directions. And that my friends, is one fucking massive feat for something a few billionths of the mass of your calculator, much less your 40 pound computer.

Another thought: If one of these complex viruses was to suddenly start re-aquirring it's self-repliation genes, it would be bad.

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#2 Hyperdrive: A new and only just recently come to light mathmatical theory seems to show that creation of a "Drive" that allows shifting into other dimensions is possible.

My thoughts: At first I scoffed at the idea of something like this being discovered and made so easily, that it was just a hoax, but now, I'm pretty well convinced that the mathametical theory the "hyperdrive" is based on is sound, and therefore, the hyperdrive itself.

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Why is that? And wasn't the math supposedly so complex that even the math professors didn't get it?

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What I worry about is not the possibilty of getting somewhere faster than the speed of light in this dimension, but the means of getting there. And that really worries me. So we've just torn a hole through this dimension into another one. Great. But, what happens then? Do we suddenly have a massive rejection of the fundamental differences of these dimensions? Do we suddenly get a release of energy making the sudden and total release of all the energy in the galaxy look like a drop in an ocean? Do we suddenly have alien monsters pouring through to anhilate all matter? Does the gate work, but when we go through our baryonic matter distengrates in this foreign environment? Are we fine, but does it screw with the minds of the initial astronaughts so horribly that when they reemerge, they're already dead from total cessation of brain function? Are there unimagninable and horrible dangers lurking on the other side?

Not that I'm complaining, I'd probably volunteer to be the first one through, but, I've read way too much hard-sci-fi based in known and presumed assumptions on the basic fabric of the unverse, to not be extremly paranoid about the... possibilities.

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Well, I don't reckon that Chthulhu & co will come pouring through any warp gates anytime soon. Also the laws of physics should be the same irrespective of what dimension we travel in because those dimensions are still part of the universe. I am still skeptical of all this because it seems too farfetched, but I guess that time will tell.

sumwhere I heard tht the galaxies r arranged in a way like bubbles forming when u blow into milk or wat though a straw, so its continually expanding...dunno wat happens out there...k, ignore me if u dnt get my stupid explanations, bad at English

Basically is it kinda talking about travelling time if it was diff dimentions?
if so, sumthing about Einstein- rosen bridge (physicist called Nathan Rosen) seem to talk about connection of 2 parts of universe seeing from a book I gt here.

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Well, I don't reckon that Chthulhu & co will come pouring through any warp gates anytime soon. Also the laws of physics should be the same irrespective of what dimension we travel in because those dimensions are still part of the universe. I am still skeptical of all this because it seems too farfetched, but I guess that time will tell.

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The lwas of physics will alter depending on what dimention you travel in. As of now we travel in 4 diffrent dimetions, vertical, horizontal, dept and time. If we where to say that we would find another dimention to travel in there would be other laws to comply to. I could not give you an example of a fifth dimention becouse I don't have the knowledge of how to think in more then 4 dimentions.

But lets say we lived in the a world devoid of one of the dimentions. Lets say vertical. Then we would wouldn't be able to differentiate hight. there would be no such thing. Up and down would be missing from what we knew and we would live by diffrent laws of physics.

Another example is if we would have the same control over the Time dimention as we have over the Vertical and horizontal dimentions we would be able to travel "back and forth" in time. Whick would make us able to do stuff we can now only dream of or have nightmares about. This would also give us other laws of physics.

Or if there exists multiple froms of vertical dimention. Then this would also give us other laws of physics.

What you are thinking about is not dimentions, but other universes which we could travel by and not dimentions. I think people have a distorted view of what a dimention is. A dimention, how I see it, is just another from for us to live in or act in, like horizontal, vertical, dept and time. what generaly is displayed in the movies and in books, which they call dimentions, are rather other universe which don't neccessarly live in the same dimentions as us. And there might even be other dimentions around us, but we don't sense them becouse we have no way of sensing them.

Is that who I think it is??? Or have I been away too long?

You talking about me??

Missed me? :D

Yes!

Well, mostly the cheese.

I like cheese.

I would try not to spam, but I really do not understand a single thing you guys are saying.