Where was I (not that it really seems to make a ripple).
Originally Posted by me
On "no such thing as hard evidense", it would probably be faster to refer to the freud thread, but the basic rundown is this. The cause and effect relation or connection is not observable, it is only assumed, furthermore all "evidense" that leads to the formulation of a governing principle overseeing the process whereby evidence is produced requires induction. You must assume that no contradictory evidense exists and that your principle is correct (or that iron rules really exist). Additionally, the existance of matter and space is also assumed as are many other things.
Concerning creation stories. There's a book by Zecharia Sitchin called "Genesis Revisited" that has an interesting take on the meaning of the sumerian creation story from which we get that of the Bible, and proposes that the gods and theological hierarchies were some disfunctional extra terrestrials. The book represents a lot of research and isn't a tin foil hat catalogue.
The question here is this. Do most people want to be worshipped by their cats, or goldfish? But before we delve into theopsychology it should be evident that "wanting" is "lacking" and what can a perfect being possibly lack?
Originally Posted by jakko1234
If God isn't fulfilled in and of itself and needs something else, then God isn't perfect and the creative motivation of the universe is just a desire for worship.
This is another good point for the line of thinking in which god and the universe are equivalent terms.
Perhaps the universe is perfect and it's just one's perception that makes it seem imperfect though even that perception is perfect as well.
Originally Posted by coolerimortal
If you think about it our "reality" as we call it isn't flawed. Meaning that it's "realness" is not insuperior so some other reality's realness. (And all "realities" are essentially just the singular "reality" collectively.) The universe is a perfect model of a universe, in that it perfectly fits the standard deffinition of the word "universe". It is a perfect replica of itself.
Its also a lot easier to change a perception than it is to change the universe.
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