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    Politics and students though both are quite opposite from each others but students are very important in politics. They are well known about the new education and have the information about the usage of the technology that can be beneficial fro the development of the country. Even though they are very experienced but they can prove them selves by passage of time.
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    Ron Paul knows the value of students and politics

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    Quote Originally Posted by dna2playboy View Post
    Ron Paul knows the value of students and politics
    ron paul? who's that? a famous person?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dna2playboy View Post
    Ron Paul knows the value of students and politics
    Does he realise that students are the product of years of leftist indoctrination and are conditioned to just blindly accept whatever feel good moralist narrative is spoon fed to them in spite of historical and cultural precedent, rather than use intellectual rigour to challenge the validity of the social dogma they are taught?

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    nobody is solely a product of any one thing.

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    students are better study hard and just observe politics and not involved in it..
    that is until they are graduate then they can try their hands on politics...

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    We had student elections at my university and people really involved in the 'youth league' programs of various political parties.
    What I found strange is that the voting as the university was so different from that in our countries elections.

    In the varsity elections, the far-right and far-left parties were the ones taking the votes. Hell, one party that was doing well was pretty much neo-Nazi. While these were actual political parties, outside of the varsity no one took them very seriously.

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    The students should be implicated in politics. They are the future of the society and they should be implicate the earlier as possible for make better choice. They don't seem to be interested in politics because they don't realise how much it's important. If they are more implicated they will realise the importance of that and more, they will feel concerned by the politics. I'm sure you know what happens with the French Canadian students last year (at Quebec) who fight for a low price education. I saw a lot of them highly implicated in the political life and not just for the price of the education. They want more than the others that the politics change for the best, but I think that there is no enough space for them because the rest of the population just don't give them this space. This rest of this population is highly disillusioned and don't have any hope in change. I think if these students should have more space and can be more implicated in the political process, it should be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kao-67 View Post
    The students should be implicated in politics. They are the future of the society and they should be implicate the earlier as possible for make better choice. They don't seem to be interested in politics because they don't realise how much it's important. If they are more implicated they will realise the importance of that and more, they will feel concerned by the politics. I'm sure you know what happens with the French Canadian students last year (at Quebec) who fight for a low price education. I saw a lot of them highly implicated in the political life and not just for the price of the education. They want more than the others that the politics change for the best, but I think that there is no enough space for them because the rest of the population just don't give them this space. This rest of this population is highly disillusioned and don't have any hope in change. I think if these students should have more space and can be more implicated in the political process, it should be a good thing.
    When you say "implicated", I think you mean "included".

    The problem of involving student with politics is experience. With students what you have are (mostly) very young people with no experience in work, the economy or politics, who have complete trust in those who are teaching them (and can fill their heads with whatever politics are fashionable at the moment) even though those teaching them have no accountability for the futures of their students or for the effects their teachings will have on those students. Even when I was in university the lecturers chose to strike for 2 days over pay and perks and they managed to get the entire student body on their side, it wasn't until years later that I realised that they cheated me out of MY time and MY education all for the sake of wanting more money that ultimately I was paying and which was putting ME in debt.

    As in your example with the French Canadian students wanting cheaper education, while I understand the sentiment, it just demonstrates to me the fact that these students have absolutely no understanding of economics (and thus should have absolutely no say in politics). Like most poorly educated people, these students don't appear to understand the difference between price and cost.
    Reducing the end price of a course does not reduce the actual costs of providing it because teachers still have to be paid, books and materials still have to be bought, buildings still have to be powered and heated, etc. That cost will ultimately have to be borne by someone, whether by the student, the university or the tax payer.
    The student doesn't want to pay the (most likely already subsidised) cost, the university probably can't afford to pay the cost (because it has to pay it's bills and still make enough to invest or fund research), and so the cost will fall to the tax payer (to whom the students have no accountability). What is really happening is the students are selfishly demanding that they get something for less while someone else pays for their largesse.

    In reality the only way costs are going to come down is if someone finds a cheaper way of educating (lol, not likely while the unions still exist), the students recieve less of an education or the students receive a worse education. The other issue you have with lower entry costs is that courses will become oversubscribed and universities will have incentives to offer worthless courses to milk cash from because the people funding them can't say no.

 

 

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