Thread: Stick to the man!

OMG ONEMANGA HAS FALLEN!!11

i actually like how they do their updates more than mangafox's, but mangafox has better search and filter functions

are there any regularly updated manga aggregation sites besides mangafox in case that goes down ? i *could* bookmark all the scanlator sites, but that's a major pain. i already have to go to dynasty-scans separately =|

OMG ONEMANGA HAS FALLEN!!11

I think 1000manga is still alive...I hope
http://www.1000manga.com/

Originally Posted by R3dKnight

I think 1000manga is still alive...I hope
http://www.1000manga.com/

Are you sure 1000manga will survive? This is where onemanga put all the +18, gore, etc. content mangas. Since onemanga is an affiliation, won't they look into the 1000manga next?

As for the online reading debate...I also generally read manga online because of limited storage space, and because sometimes I enjoy reading the manga but no interest in downloading them for collection.

This issue of manga publisher, anime bill and such going on, it makes me imagine Toshokan Sensou.

Originally Posted by R3dKnight

I think 1000manga is still alive...I hope
http://www.1000manga.com/

No, it's confirmed that 1000manga will vanish as well. Unconfirmed is MangaFox yet.

Btw, Narutofan will be the next target. Might be the final end for old Tazmo. Finally...

MangaHelpers is deleting all posts/threads concerning OneManga's downfall. Reasons unknown... MH staff has turned into a bunch of shady opportunistic scumbags...

really? people like online readers? they're so slow though to refresh each page...

I would recommend learning IRC anyday of the week instead. IRC is so easy to learn. There's thousands of tutorials out there.

not that I read manga anymore... sorry, I've grown up into uber uncool adult-ness.

Originally Posted by coolpuprocks

really? people like online readers? they're so slow though to refresh each page...

I would recommend learning IRC anyday of the week instead. IRC is so easy to learn. There's thousands of tutorials out there.

not that I read manga anymore... sorry, I've grown up into uber uncool adult-ness.

The casual readers, which I would say are the majority in the manga reading world, love to use online readers.

IRC is too much hassle for casuals nowadays. Before online readers were really popular, you could sorta attempt to get them to try IRC out, but it seems in this day and age people consider it too much effort for something they don't care too much about.

With the now super aggressive attempt to take down sites, I think IRC will probably start being used a lot more now.

Originally Posted by coolpuprocks

really? people like online readers? they're so slow though to refresh each page...

I would recommend learning IRC anyday of the week instead. IRC is so easy to learn. There's thousands of tutorials out there.

not that I read manga anymore... sorry, I've grown up into uber uncool adult-ness.

Originally Posted by vphamv

The casual readers, which I would say are the majority in the manga reading world, love to use online readers.

IRC is too much hassle for casuals nowadays. Before online readers were really popular, you could sorta attempt to get them to try IRC out, but it seems in this day and age people consider it too much effort for something they don't care too much about.

With the now super aggressive attempt to take down sites, I think IRC will probably start being used a lot more now.

Stubby here nailed it. Considering the quality (or lack thereof) of most scanlation groups out there today, there really is no incentive for me to download their releases from their website/IRC when I can just read it on a website. I'll archive manga I really really enjoy, but for the weekly SJ stuff...I'm honestly too lazy to spend the 5 minutes to look up the scanlator's IRC chan, triggers, download it, and open up CDisplay.

Besides, it's not like nobody saw this coming. Scanlation was secretive for a reason. By offering the really popular manga (e.g. Naruto, Bleach, OP) to just anyone, the American licensers are going to notice. And they will take action.

Anyway, I don't really see this as a huge loss for the community or something. 'Cause I mean, it's not like I really keep up with manga anymore...

Originally Posted by morten

Btw, Narutofan will be the next target. Might be the final end for old Tazmo. Finally...

how do you know?
And do you have any source on that?

Speaking of irc guys, do we have a tutorial here thats easy to understand? I'm sorta newbie in this thingy..

Originally Posted by vphamv

The casual readers, which I would say are the majority in the manga reading world, love to use online readers.

IRC is too much hassle for casuals nowadays. Before online readers were really popular, you could sorta attempt to get them to try IRC out, but it seems in this day and age people consider it too much effort for something they don't care too much about.

With the now super aggressive attempt to take down sites, I think IRC will probably start being used a lot more now.

Yeah, pretty much, Thing is all these publishers are just making this whole situation a lot WORSE than it would have been if they had just left it alone.

For one, NOW 99% of the people who used readers will go back to IRC

TWO: A lot of the people who read scanlated manga, probably don't have the money to buy it/takes to slow to get whole volume sets etc etc lots of reasons why they aren't buying but they are still potential customers, Hell Ive bought a few volumes of stuff I found online through the net and stuff, and if I hadn't had access to any of that stuff I wouldn't have even thought twice about it. hence them not getting any money from me and others who have done the same It could be becuase the publishers think, oh ok now the fans are addicted so they HAVE to buy the stuff now when in reality. . .

THREE: Instead of pulling MORE potential customers, these actions have pretty much just pissed their potential customers off, yeah many arent openly saying it, they say stuff like *yeah Ill pay online blah blah blah* when when it comes down do it, 90% of the community would just be annoyed rather than inspired to buy the volumes, and since they are already *addicted fans* instead of just buying the volumes when they felt inspired to or wanted to or whatever, most people just form a knee jerk response to say *F U* to *THE MAN* and would be inspired to find other ways to pirate the stuff instead of buying it because they liked it and wanted to read it again and again. so in effect the publishers just shoot themselves in the foot *banding together to fight the evil blah blah blah* Not to mention the money and resources it takes to find and threaten all of these sites that they could be using to think of better ways to make money from these guys who run the sites who have ALREADY DONE most of the work for them! (as in setting up the domains and servers etc etc)

what the publishers COULD HAVE done was actually try to WORK with the site leaders like one manga and manga toshokan and could have added a pay system that would give a hefty percentage to the publishers since the guys that run it basically do it for free(as in use all the donations to run the servers)

But instead they threaten and cause very good resources for them to make money to shut down, which further pushes away the fans who would like to help, yeah I heard about the pole thingy of would you pay for online stuff etc... but well that's just putting the cart BEFORE the horse, the damage has already been done, and the loss of profit potential is pretty huge, and really isn't likely to be remedied anytime soon since this seems to be the OPPOSITE path to what these companies want: which is compensation for their work. Its like the publishers just forgot about the THINKING part before sending of lawyer threats (as so many companies do nowdays and end up fking themselves. People don't respond well when it seems that they are being *forced or coerced into doing something* Companies are all too quick to send a lawyer after someone thinking its going to solve all their problems when in reality it just makes the mess bigger.

I can imagine some of the manga sites (there are lots that arent targeted that have lots of manga stored)just saying *no *F U* because of this and just causing more headaches and pain for the publishers when they could have worked out a solution before waving their lawyer ridden cocks in everyone's face.

Now Im not freaking out or anything (Ive been using IRC for like 10 years so I know my way around it and I know of reader sites that will be up and aren't even targeted)
but I know that these kind of stunts never work as intended. I know if there were some smart people with these publishers they could make money TWICE over, form the sites AND from selling the Volumes in English when they come out, and for the sites...they don't even HAVE to pay for translations as fans do it for FREE! anyway, its just sad that a lots of people are missing out on $$$ just because they are focusing on lost profits and pointing fingers of blame instead of focusing on making money and extending have of partnership and co-operation.

But Meh...I only read One piece anyway and buy the volumes when they come out.