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    WOWWWWWWWWwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

    +1 for insensitivity. Jerks.

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    It's the Internet, CPR, what did you expect?


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    Pretty sure it's only really important because this was the first foreign attack on US soil in a really long time, if not ever. I mean, it's not like we're making memorials for the floods in Asia or Hurricane Katrina.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neruke View Post
    Over 100.000 civil victims in Irak already.
    Go USA.


    I am pro Irak war, and was, but still... dont whine about 3000 when somewhere else there are way more people dieing.

    But of course the 100.000 victims over there are just stupid sandman right, and 3000 in NY are civilized westerns who are at least 1000 babarians worth each.
    I am anti-war, but you need to realize that... it's war. Americans also suffer casualties, remember that.

    In war, people dying is not a tragedy, but a statistic.

    Quote Originally Posted by neruke View Post
    Its long gone, and on the same year 4000 people died on a flood in china.

    Dont cry on shit every year....
    It wouldn't have been a big deal if it wasn't caused by people.

    A flood is a natural disaster.




    If you can't even show compassion towards people who lost dear ones (innocent people) in the WTC attack, shut the fuck up. This is like, slaughtering kittens or babies. These people who died in the WTC attacks were innocent people.

    It's easy to dis 9/11 remembrance and I bet you wouldn't say the same shit if you lost a loved one in it.

    So stop being immature selfish teenagers and start showing some human emotion.

    No one is forcing you to remember anything, but keep in mind that people died there and people lost loved ones in that attack.

    And if you feel you need to start remembering the lost lives in Iraq or China, no one is stopping you from doing that. Go outside and start waving banners about the "sandmen" and Chinese, you hypocritical and overly loudmouthed idiots. If you aren't going to do that, shut the fuck up.

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    Saw it on CNN during class. Was really freaked and surprised at the time. Totally destroyed my image of America as this untouchable force. It's a shame what happened. I feel sorry for those who lost family and friends in the attack rather than those who died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neruke View Post
    Over 100.000 civil victims in Irak already.
    Go USA.


    I am pro Irak war, and was, but still... dont whine about 3000 when somewhere else there are way more people dieing.

    But of course the 100.000 victims over there are just stupid sandman right, and 3000 in NY are civilized westerns who are at least 1000 babarians worth each.
    it's not about any people being better or worse but it's obvious that a country will sympathize more with others from the same nation.


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    I was in class waiting for a geopgraphy lesson to start when some of the boarders who had been watching TV in their dorms broke the news. Thankfully the teacher had the insight to realise that this was probably a world changing moment in history and allowed us to watch the news for 15 minutes.

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    What the hell are you talking about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jyuu View Post
    I am anti-war, but you need to realize that... it's war. Americans also suffer casualties, remember that.

    In war, people dying is not a tragedy, but a statistic.
    Are you aware of the fact that by the US military's own policies, both the Pentagon and the WTC were legitimate military targets, and therefore that everyone who died would have been counted as collateral damage were this a situation of the US bombing some other country?

    So going by your own reasoning, unless we make an entirely arbitrary distinction between victims and victims, it seems that you have now justified the 9/11 attacks. As this obviously is not your opinion, I trust you see why the "war is war" argument doesn't hold. Victims are victims no matter the circumstances.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jyuu
    If you can't even show compassion towards people who lost dear ones (innocent people) in the WTC attack, shut the fuck up. This is like, slaughtering kittens or babies. These people who died in the WTC attacks were innocent people.

    It's easy to dis 9/11 remembrance and I bet you wouldn't say the same shit if you lost a loved one in it.

    So stop being immature selfish teenagers and start showing some human emotion.

    No one is forcing you to remember anything, but keep in mind that people died there and people lost loved ones in that attack.

    And if you feel you need to start remembering the lost lives in Iraq or China, no one is stopping you from doing that. Go outside and start waving banners about the "sandmen" and Chinese, you hypocritical and overly loudmouthed idiots. If you aren't going to do that, shut the fuck up.
    It's a touchy subject, and that's exactly why it should be discussed. I can't speak for anybody else, but for my own part I consider 9/11 a tragedy just like every other disaster, and the relatives of the victims do have my sympathy.

    However, I also take umbrage as the enormous double standard that many people have WRT 9/11. It is a fact that many greater tragedies go unmentioned and ignored while 9/11 is made into some kind of world-shattering event that apparently should be remembered forever. For example, who in america remembers Srebrenica? How would you feel if you had gone through something like that, and then some lesser tragedy is magnified in the minds of people while your suffering is quietly forgotten?

    In fact, there is very, very much that should be remembered but isn't, and unfortunately 9/11 has become so entwined into the popular consciousness that people are demanding greater respect that the event is due, and even downplaying other tragedies when they are compared to 9/11, for example you yourself in this very thread WRT the Iraq war.

    So if you want to mourn and remember, that's your right and prerogative. But in the spirit of fairness, you should not expect and demand that everyone else does the same. They may have bigger tragedies of their own, and may be a bit annoyed at the attitude demonstrated by the 9/11 mourners, and will perhaps even point this out.

    And while I dislike getting personal on topics like these, you yourself dismissed the innocent victims on the Iraq war in the very same post where you accuse others of showing insensitivity towards the suffering of 9/11 victims. This attitude of yours is clearly quite insensitive, and thus I trust you see the problem inherent in it.

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    If people choose to honour the dead, let them. Who are you to say they shouldn't do it?
    It's their right. If Iraqi people don't honour theirs, that's their problem. You're just being disrespectful.

    They are not downplaying any other tragedy. It's just that it's their choice to remember this one. If YOU want to remember other tragedies, you are free to do so.

    But you obviously aren't doing anything other than whine.


    I really don't give half a damn about the 9/11 attacks, but I do respect the amount of respect they are showing towards the dead. If you feel so concerned about other tragedies or natural disasters, really, be my guest and start raising funds to commemorate those as well.

    Again, you need to understand it's their choice to put 9/11 in a special place in their memories. You really are free to ignore it if you find it so annoying. But you really shouldn't be a dick about it.

 

 
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