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    Heartlessfang is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    Default Humans vs Nature..?

    Interesting......She makes great points but I don't agree with her.
    Read the comments. They're interesting as well.

    http://freakzter.deviantart.com/journal/24346293/

    What do you guys think?

    "You have other hearts trapped within you as well, dont you?"
    "You're that guy from last time! What are you talking about?!"
    "The other Hearts within you."
    "Hearts trapped within me....?"

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    An argument. Pretty crude, but an argument.

    So then, I'll go and kill her and erase all proof that she existed.

    Because its natural

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    Heartlessfang is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    that's exactly what I was thinking. But you have to admit that she has a point.

    "You have other hearts trapped within you as well, dont you?"
    "You're that guy from last time! What are you talking about?!"
    "The other Hearts within you."
    "Hearts trapped within me....?"

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    She needs to learn about shift and the caps lock button.....

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    999Ghosts is offline Senior Member Long Time Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heartlessfang View Post
    that's exactly what I was thinking. But you have to admit that she has a point.
    why? because nature created humans. nature cannot make mistakes. thus humans are not a mistake, thus everything we are and everything we are doing, is what's SUPPOSED to be happening.
    When man started to bend nature to his will, he loosened his ties to the natural order of things; he became an agent of his own advancement. But she is right - nature has not, does not, and will never make mistakes; Humans do.

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    Apparently this person subscribes to a teleological view of nature, which of course is absurd because nature doesn't have a will. Nature simply is, and therefore any attempt to say that nature meant for something to be, or that someting is supposed to be because it's natural is a classic fallacy of reasoning.

    So no, these points really can't be described as great.


    Furthermore, the battle between Humanity vs. Nature was conclusively won by the humans when we invented thermonuclear weapons. If nature ever becomes uppity, she knows that she'll get a few thousand megatons in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 999Ghosts View Post
    nature has not, does not, and will never make mistakes; Humans do.
    Thats NOT right.
    Nature makes mistakes en mass.

    Every species that isnt enough adapted to the environment to survive is a failure and mistake.

    So IN FACT mankind is one of natures biggest successes, since we have the potential to survive a lot environmental issues.

    The person there has a point, and I am not unwilling to agree partly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freakzter
    why? because nature created humans. nature cannot make mistakes. thus humans are not a mistake, thus everything we are and everything we are doing, is what's SUPPOSED to be happening.
    Quote Originally Posted by neruke View Post
    Thats NOT right.
    Nature makes mistakes en mass.

    Every species that isnt enough adapted to the environment to survive is a failure and mistake.

    So IN FACT mankind is one of natures biggest successes, since we have the potential to survive a lot environmental issues.

    The person there has a point, and I am not unwilling to agree partly...
    So then, who is right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 999Ghosts View Post
    When man started to bend nature to his will, he loosened his ties to the natural order of things; he became an agent of his own advancement. But she is right - nature has not, does not, and will never make mistakes; Humans do.
    Agree X2
    Well, human is not a mistake, human make mistakes. But then again, how do we classify nature mistake? Using human classification to point out nature mistake is fundamentally wrong if you ask moi. Do any of you have written document of nature laws in possession? I want one

    So then, who is right?
    Who do you think?

    That is wrong question It should be, what do you believe in? and Who do you believe?

    The again, I do not think that matter anyway, human express opinion and human answer with other opinion. If nature could talk and present its argument, then I can use my hypocrite judgment to see who's right and who's wrong.

    Ask me,ask you,ask why,ask how.

    Nature and human and everything. Its a paradox of existent is you see it in another way. "Nature" as human named it exist, shall exist and continue to exist, no matter what human do anyway. Global warming? are you kidding me, we are basically trying to save our own skin right now hahaha. If you do believe earth is just a lump of space dust sticking together and then can support life beginning from single cell microorganism before human exist , why should it not support life long after we obliterated ourselves?

    I always joke around when environmentalist ask me about global warming with this statement -

    You see my friend,its not like I dun care bout our earth, but when I think about it, Its act like us really. How, well, you see my friend, if we sick, we get fever and our temperature rise, trying to kill whatever infection we got in the first place. Why do you think earth got fever in the first place?

    End of my hypocrite view. Have a nice day.

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    Nature makes no mistakes by definition, because nature takes no actions. In fact, what we call nature is only a large and complex set of natural and biological laws that essentially run on autopilot.

    It's really not more complicated than that.

 

 
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