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    infamouse is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    I can give some insight on the riot since I live in the bay area. The riot was caused by anarchists. They were the ones destroying everything. It was really peaceful before they showed up and started to caused trouble.

    Also Issa I looked and didn't see that......

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    Saizou is completely correct -- policemen need to be held to a higher standard than the usual citizen.

    I can't understand why the policeman has not be detained pending charges. It is not enough for spokespeople to come out and say, "well, no one really knows what happened yet..." That would not be an excuse for anyone else.

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    when exactly does he get shot cause i don't feel like watching 10 minutes of "ohhhhhhh" and a shaky camera...

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    infamouse is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    It does show him getting shot but right after as the police is moving the gun away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raszagal View Post
    Well, police force world over have always recieved special treament. And I can picture myself that this cops walks with a punishment way lower then if it was a john doe.
    Yeah, Zombies are always getting the short end of the stick.

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    At the second video, 32-33 seconds IIRC.

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    The guy should have been detained by now, that is weird, and unacceptable. I guess one reason he hasn't been is that he's not going to run. If it was your average guy on the street, he could bolt, but a cop isn't going to. Still, he should have been taken in by now.

    Also, I agree with whoever said manslaughter. The shooting certainly didn't seem intentional from what I've read - at least not the death - but the guy still seemed to act with far too much negligence.

    But the thing that annoys me the most about all this is all the cop hate. It happens all the time, you see it in the video before anything even happens. For some reason, it's cool to make the cop's job as difficult as possible. Every passerby is trying to wind the cops up as much as they can, because they know the cops can't retaliate.

    The cops have a difficult fucking job. They have to sort out everyone else's problems, but they have to do it to such a rigid and strict set of rules. They have to say exactly the right things. They have to be so careful not to use any more force than necessary. And those rules should be in place. But other people shouldn't be making it even more difficult for them. Cops are people too. They still get stressed and all the rest of it. They have special training, and of course they need to be able to take more shit than the average man. But they don't need people who aren't even concerned with the events making things worse. People should let the cops do their job.

    In this particular case, it seems most likely like an unexperienced guy making a stupid, but bad mistake. But in general, if people didn't always add so much extra shit to the cops' job, shit like this would happen much less.

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    Cops should be given a fair amount of leeway. That doesn't mean that they should be immune to criticism or prosecution though. I can understand excess use of force, accidental shooting when the cops thought the suspect was armed, that kinda thing. I don't get shooting someone on the ground though. Anyways, this should be an issue for the courts to decide.

    I know this one is from a few weeks ago, but it seemed on topic.

    http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Racial...g_of_0108.html

 

 
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