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    Considering most smoking areas are the entrances to buildings, I don't think it removes secondhand smoke. I seriously hold my breath a lot at college, that smoke smells really bad. It's also true that secondhand smoke is more dangerous than smoking yourself.

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    ^ I hate that too. Smokers will line up in front of buildings, so that I have to literally hold my breath for about half a block. Anyone who chooses to smoke is retarded.
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    So we STILL have bigger problems than this.^__^
    So just because we have bigger problems we should ignore all else? 440,000 people die every year(in the USA) due to smoking. I'd say that's a pretty big problem.

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    In germany smoking is a problem, as it heavily burdens the budget of our health insurance system.
    Thats the reason I would like to see it forbidden, or even better burdened with high taxes (it alredy is) but not covered by health insurance.
    Iīm not willing to pay more money to my insurance just to pay for other people new voice sets.
    wood ear

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    So this is what it's like being invisible. I'm just like the natural carcinogens in our air that are getting ignored by this generation. Yay!

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    Once you give people a right. It is almost impossible to take it away. Do I like smoking ? No.
    Second hand smoke...I would have to hang out with smokers for it to really affect me. Funny thing about pubs without smoking, they almost smell worst without the smoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by overmind View Post
    It's also true that secondhand smoke is more dangerous than smoking yourself.
    About that... why?
    The person doing the smoking is breathing that same air. Plus, they're smoking. Thus they're 1st hand and 2nd hand smoking all at once.
    A simple bystander just gets the "2nd hand smoking" bit.

    I never understood this "2nd hand smoking is worse" thing.

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    ^you know, i don't think it's true. think it's one of those myth things. anyone got any stats or data online to back it up?

    banning smoking is impossible. people will do it no matter what. best thing's to ban sale of cigarettes and smoking for everyone who's currently not smoking. sooner or later you'll get a generation of non-smokers, and the rest plays itself out.

    as for the ones who're already in it, its up to them to stop i guess. seeing a smoker's lung can be enough to scare anyone, i think.

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    ^just forget it, in such an importand topic, stats and data never tell the truth.
    if I hadnīt to pay for It, I couldnīt care less about people killing them self with drugs. If that part is changed, I am happy with things as they are just now - Maybe even all other drugs could become legal to gain taxes.
    I just donīt understand why people even start to take them...
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    ^ i completely agree. I guess we shouldn't really bother with the statistics, because no matter how bad it is, we still suffer because of second-hand smoke.

    why do they start? some stupid thing like wanting to look cool or curiosity, i guess. at least that's what they tell us in our education curriculum. i personally don't see what its all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csuti View Post
    About that... why?
    The person doing the smoking is breathing that same air. Plus, they're smoking. Thus they're 1st hand and 2nd hand smoking all at once.
    A simple bystander just gets the "2nd hand smoking" bit.

    I never understood this "2nd hand smoking is worse" thing.
    How dangerous is second-hand smoke?
    Second-hand smoke is poisonous and has over 4,000 chemicals in it, including 50 that can cause cancer. Second-hand smoke can be more dangerous than smoking. Smokers inhale their chemical cocktail through a filter; second-hand smokers aren’t so lucky.
    Second-hand smoke has twice as much nicotine and tar as the smoke smokers inhale, and 5 times more carbon monoxide, a deadly gas that starves your body of oxygen. Other chemicals found in second-hand smoke include:

    Benzo[a]pyrene – found in coal tar, is a chemical likely to cause cancer in humans.
    Formaldehyde – used to preserve dead animals.
    Hydrogen cyanide – used in rat poison.
    Ammonia – used to clean floors and toilets.
    Each year in Canada, second-hand smoke causes more than 1,000 deaths among non-smokers, mainly from lung cancer and heart disease, and keeps many more from leading healthy lives.
    Well...just the fact that they inhale through a filter doesn't prove much. I mean,as you said, they inhale through a filter but they still breathe the same air we do afterwards so it soen't make much sense. waah "second hand smokers aren't so lucky". ....saying this as if they're proving a fact. lol.
    so...dunno.

 

 
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