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    xxDoLLarBiLLxx is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Arrow We eating CLONED FOOD????

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080902/...loning_food_dc


    does this mean that we are doomed??? because you can bet that the number of cloned animals will increase once the world becomes short on food supply(yes, that will eventually happen!!!).
    Cloning is an heresy right? i dont mean to get too religious here but isn't this like we playing the role of gods?? at some point, even humans will be cloned right??
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    ...please tell me you're not being serious.



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    xxDoLLarBiLLxx is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Quote Originally Posted by MojoMunkeez View Post
    ...please tell me you're not being serious.
    hell yea, im being serious. Maybe its all the movies that involved cloning that i've seen but sitll, its defnitely something to talk/think about.

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    Humans have been interfering with animal breeding for hundreds of years. This is simply an extension of that. It's a bit late to worry about playing God.

    How is cloning humans in any way different from any other human birth? So you will have a person with the same genetic code as another. How would that constitute ursurping the role of gods? If you think that cloning is an issue, what about in vitro procedures or gene therapy?

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    "playing god" is just a stupid expression christian retards created.

    humans allways used their inteligence to change the things in the world for their benefit. cloning animals cuz we're short of food is nothing else.

    the meat is not less tasty than the meat of real ones. breed animals to be slaugthers or clone them to be slaugthers. where's the difference? we use their lives to our benefit. so your expression "playing god" happend the last thousends of years anyways.

    furthermore it does not effect human society.
    human cloning would have an effect on society but that's not the topic.

    so where's the problem? ohh and i dont remember the bible saying "it is forbidden to create live"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuyvesant View Post
    Humans have been interfering with animal breeding for hundreds of years. This is simply an extension of that. It's a bit late to worry about playing God.

    How is cloning humans in any way different from any other human birth? So you will have a person with the same genetic code as another. How would that constitute ursurping the role of gods? If you think that cloning is an issue, what about in vitro procedures or gene therapy?

    Wow, such valid points. I agree, cloning isn't going to be the worst thing that we have ever done. Heck if cloning could solve world hunger, I say go for it! Or else you just want millions of kids starving to death out there. If god doesn't want to save those kids in his big plan of is, I guess we should.

    Taken from the article
    "but it would be impossible to know because there is no difference between cloned and conventional products. "

    if it doesn't kill us, it'll make us stronger ~~
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    Quote Originally Posted by boredgwntd View Post
    Wow, such valid points. I agree, cloning isn't going to be the worst thing that we have ever done. Heck if cloning could solve world hunger, I say go for it! Or else you just want millions of kids starving to death out there. If god doesn't want to save those kids in his big plan of is, I guess we should.

    Taken from the article
    "but it would be impossible to know because there is no difference between cloned and conventional products. "

    if it doesn't kill us, it'll make us stronger ~~
    man yall some sick individuals man. I dont know about you guys but i done seen movies which involved cloning gone wrong, so i'm kinda skeptical about it. If we clone an animal with a disease, imagine how that disease could evolve and it can be different(small difference at the genetic level could create a whole new different disease)...
    I'm all for stem cell research but cloning animals which will be consumed is a whole different thing mayne.

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    I have no problems with cloning or manipulation of DNA in general, but I am sure as hell against doing that stuff now. In fact there are accidents in gen manipulation. In the USA they at least twice produced and soled manipulated plants just to find out later that they are poisonous or at least strong alergenic agents.
    And cloned animals tend to get cancers, first off all thats painfull for the animal (I am an atheist so I believe that animals know pain and are worth as much as humans) and second I don´t really want to eat animals that had cancers.
    In my oppinion we have to do at least 50 years of research left to do before we manipulate all our food, to do that now seems to be greed triggered suicide to me.

    Oh! one other point. World hunger can not be solved by that stuff, it seems plain stupid to me to think so. The main reason for hunger is overpopulation leading to poverty. If we got more food with gene technology right now, human population would just increase again until the situation becomes the same again.
    To end world hunger it would be neccasary to decrease population (I speak about about birth control here of corse)
    But to do that we would have to change traditions and religious rules (maby bloodshed would be faster after all).
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    @Dollar
    Are you serious, thats a very lame excuse. Why the hell wouldn't they check the animal's DNA if its carrying some kind of virus or mutation? Cloning is something that is relatively new still by science's standard. It's still in the developing stages. We can't automatically depend on it completely just yet.

    But just think what your saying that every scientist that is working there, who I'm sure have gone to many years of college. Is going to mess up and mass produce millions of rabid cows........... I'm sure they check the cows out before they slaughter them ~~.

    There is protocol and procedure to everything that is done. So that nothing harmful would affect the general populace. Only will tell, if cloning has the capabilities, and if man has the ingenuity to achieve a great accomplishment.

    @nroejb
    So your saying that we gotta wait this out. And wait till all the starving and suffering kids right now die? Than we reach a equilibrium with the human populace and the amount of food we are able to produce...

    Probably won't happen, you just can't stop population growth, its something that is inevitable for sentinel beings. Hopefully we might able to maintain life on off plantery systems. But thats probably long long into the future.

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    Uh....about world hunger.
    There is actually more than enough food in the world to feed the hungry.
    It just never gets to the right people.
    In fact, the US government pays farmers to let fields go fallow, that is, to not grow anything on them.
    The problem is not overpopulation, but poor distribution.



 

 
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