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    xxDoLLarBiLLxx is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Quote Originally Posted by MojoMunkeez View Post
    Uh....about world hunger.
    There is actually more than enough food in the world to feed the hungry.
    It just never gets to the right people.
    In fact, the US government pays farmers to let fields go fallow, that is, to not grow anything on them.
    The problem is not overpopulation, but poor distribution.
    Mojo you the one who should be the one who should be more worried since your people count for more than 20% of the world's population. I don't think china is that scientifically advanced yet to start creating clones, you know once they do, it will get out of control. Not to mention there's already a lot of poor people there already. So i think you should be more worried.

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    ...You failed to see the point.

    And...what's so bad about clones again?



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    Quote Originally Posted by MojoMunkeez View Post
    And...what's so bad about clones again?
    Costs more, dies easily and early due to frayed telomeres. The benefits so far are limited by the marginal uses of the clones, if I recall correctly cattle is cloned mainly for milk and breeding purposes.
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    I try not to remember that I'm eating the food made by those trying to play God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MojoMunkeez View Post
    Uh....about world hunger.
    There is actually more than enough food in the world to feed the hungry.
    It just never gets to the right people.
    In fact, the US government pays farmers to let fields go fallow, that is, to not grow anything on them.
    The problem is not overpopulation, but poor distribution.
    You sure about that? as far as I know that is very theoretical, but I am no expert for food production, transportation and distribution.
    But if it is the unvarnished truth, there is no need for cloned food anyway.



    @ boredgwntd
    So your saying that we gotta wait this out. And wait till all the starving and suffering kids right now die?
    Well thas what we do now anyway. Itīs not like we really try to help the poor in the case of european and american economy the opposite is the case.
    I just say that cultivate more resourcefull cattle and crop wonīt change anything.
    you just can't stop population growth, its something that is inevitable for sentinel beings
    If we canīt even use our big brain to overcome such low instincts, I am not sure if a little hunger doesnīt serve us right...
    But seriously to solve problems is never easy, thats why just manpulating some genes will not be a salvation to our problems and thats why we wonīt be able to avoid, to overcome some of our instincts, Today humans live like the nomads they once were, but today you canīt harvest a region dry and move on any longer, as there is no place left to go. If we fail to adjust our livestile to the available resources (goes for food and for energy) We wonīt avoid widespread deaths just like it happens to rabbits and lemmings when there are to much of them.

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    As long as people are gettin something to eat, rather then starve, I dont see the big problem here. But before making new meat for people just to shove down, perhaps they should consider not lettin people eat so much. The whole reason for the low supply of food is people just eatin to they explode. And even if there is food enough, poor distribution is just a poor reason. They should make a limit to how much meat a person can buy.

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    really? Is that why they were reporting that a lot of Fishes are starting to be endangered, especially those that are around coastlines? You know how far, boats will have to go now, just so they can fish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nroejb View Post
    You sure about that? as far as I know that is very theoretical, but I am no expert for food production, transportation and distribution.
    But if it is the unvarnished truth, there is no need for cloned food anyway.


    This is the case with grain and many staple crops grown (or not, apparently) in the US.



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    ^ That article is pretty strange....

    Earth may be in the midst of the greatest extinction ever, according to a new mass extinction scoring system.
    <...>
    The International Union for the Conservation of Nature estimates that 800 plant and animal species have gone extinct in the last 500 years, with more than 16,000 currently threatened with extinction -- and those lost or threatened organisms come the from mere 41,000 species so far assessed by science. More than a million have been described but remain unstudied
    According to entomologists there is about 1,000,000 species of insects on earth now. And about as much nematodes. Thats about 2,000,000... add all other animals to this number. There also are plants, fungi, protists and procareotes. 800 species that dissapeared in last 500 years and 16,000 that might die soon do not make 96&#37; of all species present right now. To call current situation the greatest extinction event ever at least those 96% are to be surpassed, since this number is how many species died in Permian extinction event that is third greatest so far. 17,000 seems kinda small compared to those which are still on Earth. I don't really see what that claim is based on.

    Ah, and - please, explain to me how eating cloned cows is related to this.
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