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    4n0nm0$ is offline Senior Member Always Around
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    Default Drug experiments in the Third World

    49 babies die following drug experiment

    Discuss. Are drug experiments in the Third World necessary to protect the health of mankind and the drug research for better medication for little children and babies? Or is it just too cruel?

    There are a lot of other events in the past even in the US or Nazi experiments.

    Tuskegee

    Menege

    Yea or nay?

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    The Nazi doing it with the White Semantics in Europe.
    They also had the same experiment in Holland
    where the halve of them had died due to the side effects


    but i this case you're talking about children/Babies

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    Nah. Not only. Tuskagee was with grown up and the observation of Syphilis
    in the end state. Care to see what happens with a syphilis face, heh?

    There were a lot of different drug experiments in africa in teh last years, no big of an hype in the media though. Like in namibia. And don't let us forget monsanto, like evil umbrella corp in real life. Though they like to experiment with toxic and genetic research, their research lab is the thirl worl too.

    Wouldn't wonder if africa is like a big lab paradise for diseases to experiment with.

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    Any potential harm done by proper medical research must naturally be compared with the harm that would be caused if the research in question wouldn't be done in the first place.

    And everyone with even the most rudimentary knowledge of history has to agree that the death of maybe a few hundred people per year in accidents caused by medical research is far better than hundreds of thousands, or even millions of people dying from epidemics, cancer and other nasty stuff like that.


    And by the way, it's entirely irrational to bring up Mengele in any discussion about serious medical research. Mengele was simply a sadist that got a license for his perversions by the most brutal regime in history. He was never following the scientific method, or even interested in developing any medical treatments whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4n0nm0$ View Post
    Too offensive to exist.
    Huh, what was that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saizou View Post
    Any potential harm done by proper medical research must naturally be compared with the harm that would be caused if the research in question wouldn't be done in the first place.

    And everyone with even the most rudimentary knowledge of history has to agree that the death of maybe a few hundred people per year in accidents caused by medical research is far better than hundreds of thousands, or even millions of people dying from epidemics, cancer and other nasty stuff like that.
    I totally agree with you. You are a wise man. It is far more important that a huge number of humans survive than a small group of expendable who never went to school and did nothing than wasting foreign aid. Humankind will be thankful for them to give their life for our survive against aids and bird-flu.

    And by the way, it's entirely irrational to bring up Mengele in any discussion about serious medical research. Mengele was simply a sadist that got a license for his perversions by the most brutal regime in history. He was never following the scientific method, or even interested in developing any medical treatments whatsoever.
    Mengel is a example for all of them nazi doctors. We don't know for sure what all of them did.
    But sum of the US and Soviet secret service confiscated all the stuff of the human experiments of the concentration camps. Mainly those where they made experiments for von Braun about graphity and accelaration rocket tests. Like the first ejection seat the nazis invented was first tested in camp concentration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4n0n¥m0µ$ View Post
    Huh, what was that?
    Something I'm considering banning you for the next 72 hours over... depending on what you do in the next 12 hours.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    Something I'm considering banning you for the next 72 hours over... depending on what you do in the next 12 hours.
    Lol, I don't even remember.

    Back to topic

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    That Rachel Weiz movie wasn't just a hollywood movie. And the worst part is that the leaders of these 3rd World Countries accept it in exchange for money. It's like Slavery all over again. You think Aids virus just popped out of nowhere?? You know how much Pharmaceutical Companies are making off Aids? why do you think they haven't found a vaccine till dis day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4n0n¥m0µ$ View Post
    Lol, I don't even remember.
    Whatever you say. You better be posting like you're a haemophiliac walking on broken glass. >: \


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    Quote Originally Posted by 4n0nm0$ View Post
    I totally agree with you. You are a wise man. It is far more important that a huge number of humans survive than a small group of expendable who never went to school and did nothing than wasting foreign aid. Humankind will be thankful for them to give their life for our survive against aids and bird-flu.
    Either you're trying to be clever here (and failing miserably at it), or you're more blas about human suffering than I thought (and that's saying a lot). But I'm actually leaing towards option three, i.e. that you don't understand utility-based ethics.

    Quote Originally Posted by 4n0nm0$
    Mengel is a example for all of them nazi doctors. We don't know for sure what all of them did.
    But sum of the US and Soviet secret service confiscated all the stuff of the human experiments of the concentration camps. Mainly those where they made experiments for von Braun about graphity and accelaration rocket tests. Like the first ejection seat the nazis invented was first tested in camp concentration.
    Do you have any sources to corroborate your claim?

    But to be serious, that's besides the point. Mengele and his ilk were sadists and butchers, not serious practitioners of medical science. Their goal was never the betterment of mankind, but to satisfy their own perverse urges.

 

 
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