Thread: Do you agree? To take it of the shelf?

Originally Posted by echoblaze

windows vista is a piece of crap. it looks kinda nice, but sucks up too much resource - unless you're in the minority of people that likes to do heavy tweaking, Windows XP is stabler, safer, more compatible with various software, and does everything Vista can do.

the reason why microsoft is forcing vendors to ship with Vista - and start fazing out XP - is to force mass adoption of Vista. they need to continue to sell a new version of their OS since it's their golden egg.

Vista (as a system) is not crap, it has teething problems. Its interface however is fucking aweful, and I'm not just saying that because I haven't figured out how to use it, it just doesn't appear to have the user in mind.

For example, what is the point of splitting up the display options?
When selecting files and folders, the selection shading dosen't have enough contrast to make it clearly visable.
Copying or moving files will be near imposible for users who don't understand how holding Ctrl effects drag and dropping now that the handy menu has been removed from the left of the window (if you wanted to view the folder tree in XP all you had to do is click the big button marked "folders").
Destop icons are now bigger, meaning I can't get as many icons on the desktop.
Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del takes you away from the desktop when all I want is the task manager, I haven't tried it yet, but how will this effect the way I start up games when I want to close explorer before playing. This isn't so much a problem, rather it is just plain annoying.
There are other gripes that I have, but these can all be fixed by changing settings (and turning off all the security features completely and thus negating 95%b of the advantage Vista has over XP).

I'm still trying to find out if its possible to uninstall IE7 and WMP11 and install the previous versions of each.

As for XP being safer than Vista, no, definately not, that is unless you have disabled all the security features to get rid of that insanely annoying pop-up.

^ about the security, I thought it had something to do with memory being randomized...or something.

Originally Posted by bipolargraph

^ about the security, I thought it had something to do with memory being randomized...or something.

Hell if I know, what I do know is that someone somewhere will beat it, it'll get patched and then it'll be beaten again, and this will keep happening and we'll be no better off than we were before.

aye, that's true. but the most glaring problems are usually solved early on. there's a consensus in the tech community that Windows XP with SP2 is safer than Windows XP without.

Originally Posted by echoblaze

aye, that's true. but the most glaring problems are usually solved early on. there's a consensus in the tech community that Windows XP with SP2 is safer than Windows XP without.

...God I hope so. Or one of the major points of a service patch would suddenly be a lie. A Li(Microsoft'd).

I feel like being contrary. I vote yes.

I don't really care, not like it's bothering me.

Well, it affects me. I just recently bought a new laptop and it came with Vista, no choice. Dammit. I've tried to use it but it's annoying, and unstable.

I have a copy of XP (genuine!) which I want to install, but Vista won't allow a downgrade. I've tried booting straight from the disc, but when it tries to install, it says it can't detect a hard drive!! ??

Any help?

Originally Posted by 98abaile

As for XP being safer than XP, no, definately not

I'd say that's a fairly safe statement.

I hope, personally, that they get Beryl(or whatever it is called now) working right with Industrious Ibex. Cube ftw.


Also, for those worried about Vista's drain on system resources, I never mentioned "Vista Lite." Nope, not once.

Originally Posted by Sherman

I'd say that's a fairly safe statement.

Oops, fixed.