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    Terasiel is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    For the record, this is the very first time, believe it or not, I've ever heard "The South" and "Big Oil" mentioned at the same time and a connection established between them. Then again, I do live about a thousand or so miles from Crawford Texus and right next to Hydroelectric power generators.

    Still, totally get your point.

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    Well if you're talking about Texas... It alone has 3 of the top 10 largest fields for domestic oil in this country. Four if you count the one in the Gulf of Mexico. In 2005, Louisiana produced more oil than Texas oddly enough...


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    Warming is happening and we're adding to the effect. That's a fact. The extent of the addition is debatable however.

    About CO2... We produce some 30 billion tons of carbon dioxide per year now, which is about 3% of the natural flux between atmosphere and oceans or land, and about 1% of the total amount in the atmosphere. The greenhouse effect raises the mean temperature of Earth for 33 celsius degree at the moment. CO2 contributes 10-25% of the effect. Which isn't much. Simple math gives some 0.03-0.08 celsius degrees.

    But if we keep on following the current trend, the amount of CO2 we produce will be doubled every 20-30 years. So in about a 100 years we'd be spewing out 1/2 of the planet's yearly natural flux of CO2. 15% of the total amount in the atmosphere. Which, using simple math again, would warm up the planet for 0.5-1.5 celsius degrees. Now that would already be an insane increase in temperature. Put all other greenhouse gasses and 50 years of the same development on top of that and we might as well kiss goodbye for at least half of the world's population.

    It's the worst case scenario of course, but far from impossible. Some 5 celsius degrees increase in temperature in a timespan of a few hundred years would have catastrophical results all around the globe.

    Now, I'm not that worried yet, since there is plenty of time to do something about it, but a 100 years isn't really a long time in the grand scheme of things. If humankind still at that time is pondering whether or not to take action, it may very well end up in the next mass extinction of species.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    Personally I think that Solar is the way to go for general power needs because the Sun radiates an insane amount of energy that we're just too lazy to tap and coupling that with electric/hydrogen cars but ... nevermind.
    Solar? The problem with solar is its inconsistancy, the fact that our solar panels still do not operate at high efficiencies, and way to offten the storage requirements for the energy produced by solar are way too huge. I think solar is a great idea but it needs a lot more development before ti could be considered as a primary source of energy. BC has done pretty decently with hydro power but it does have it's share of negative environmental impacts. I really think nuclear is probably the best bet we have going at the moment.

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    The only way to get more efficient solar power is to do research and development. The sun produces 1500 watts per meter squared on earths surface. Thats a hell of a lot of power. However we Americans seem content to be on the back burner and let the Europeans or whoever develop the technology to harness this more efficiently... something about us being cheap lazy bastards.


    I'd like to die with the songs I love stuck in my head. I hope to make the most of these hollow bones we become.
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    ...can't we just hurry up and invent energy collectors that coincide with non-depleting resources? You know, like misery. We could have thousands of cubicles with thousands of middle-aged, overweight, single parents chasing a lottery tickets while shackled and chained to treadmills.

    Good times would be had by all.

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    Maybe we could dig up corpses and burn those instead of fossil fuel... I hear the recently deceased incinerate well. Oh shit!!! Hell yeah, we could turn crematoriums into little mini power plants!!!!


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    Screw that! The dead are so damn lazy. Always just lying around and rotting. Make them run on the treadmills!

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    I'd like to die with the songs I love stuck in my head. I hope to make the most of these hollow bones we become.
    I raise a toast to the the souls that sang all along. I've been gathering friends to just to make some sounds,
    before the ship goes down, I've been making amends by making the rounds before the whole world ends


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    Why...why didn't I think of that... it's so simple. Put a mirror in front of a Treadzombie© and they'll run forever... BRILLIANT!

 

 
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