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    Quote Originally Posted by StealDragon View Post
    Anybody with a remote sense of geography knows its stupid to call the continent Australia. Where the hell is Indonesia, New Zealand, Micronesia and Fiji then? Last I checked they had nothing to do with Australia.
    Were you trying to contradict yourself there? Australia is an isolated, self-enclosed island the size of the United States. Why would it be stupid to assume that it's still a continent?

    Sorry if thats harsh, I fucking hate when people ask that question. Its like why we named it North America instead of just calling it The Land Around The United States, or why we don't just call the entire Caribbean "Hispaniola".
    The United States is physically inseparable from Canada and Mexico. So you're rationale is completely bullshit.

    Okay, let me straighten this out. If the United States were floating around in the ocean, Mexico didn't exist, and Canada were just a massive chain of islands above it - would people go back in the late 1900's and suddenly decide "The United States isn't a Continent - every island within a thousand miles must be counted as well; So it will henceforth be known as Islandia?" It's like getting pissed at someone for thinking Pluto is a friggin planet in 2007.

    Just to clarify why I would think it's a continent "in this day and age" - Every Geography class in my life had Australia listed as a continent. I'm not saying they were right or anything, just that it isn't that big a stretch for someone to still think that. Seriously, of all the things to be pissed at - why this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terasiel View Post
    Were you trying to contradict yourself there? Australia is an isolated, self-enclosed island the size of the United States. Why would it be stupid to assume that it's still a continent?
    It never was a continent. Its "still" and always was part of a larger continent. There are zillions of inhabited islands surrounding the country, and technically anything east of Indonesia is not part of Asia. The size and self enclosure of the country has nothing to do with anything.

    The United States is physically inseparable from Canada and Mexico. So you're rationale is completely bullshit.
    Yeah... No. Australia is physically inseparable from everything surrounding it as well. just because theres a sea in between it all changes nothing.

    Okay, let me straighten this out. If the United States were floating around in the ocean, Mexico didn't exist, and Canada were just a massive chain of islands above it - would people go back in the late 1900's and suddenly decide "The United States isn't a Continent - every island within a thousand miles must be counted as well; So it will henceforth be known as Islandia?"
    If you were a cartographer thats exactly what you'd do. You can't just relegate places to limbo because they're not connected by land to the largest thing around them.

    Just to clarify why I would think it's a continent "in this day and age" - Every Geography class in my life had Australia listed as a continent. I'm not saying they were right or anything, just that it isn't that big a stretch for someone to still think that. Seriously, of all the things to be pissed at - why this?
    Well then its sad that people still don't know what should be basic geography. Every piece of land is part of a continent and if I ask someone what continent Fiji is on and you say Australia, I'm going have to educate you.

    Australia is a country. Oceania is the continent.


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    As the only Australian in this thread (that I'm aware of), I'm afraid I have to step in and say that Steal is actually correct. Even I was taught as a child that Australia was a continent in itself, but the truth is that it's on the same continental plate as New Zealand, Indonesia and a bunch of other islands chains north of Australia.

    Indo-Australian Plate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Really? In Australia you're actually taught that you are a continent in and of yourself?

    Bloody Australians.

    Well, I'm from New Zealand, and have to say my country is not part of the Great Continent of Australia.

    Although, it's often called "Australasia", which.... could lead to some confusion if you're not really paying attention.

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    Hey, it WAS a long time ago. I'm 24 now, I was taught that back when I first started school. I don't even know if it was in the curriculum, it could have just been a teacher who didn't know any better mentioning it as a bit of trivia during Geography lessons.

    Then again, by definition continents don't have to be defined by a tectonic plate or a body of water, just by any geological feature which creates a natural border. For instance, Asia is only separated from Europe by a mountain range. Both are on the same tectonic plate. It's quite possible that Australia was originally classified as its own continent, but that was later redefined to include the surrounding countries.
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    how did a thread about a two-faced girl turn into an argument about whether or not Australia should be a continent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas71 View Post
    how did a thread about a two-faced girl turn into an argument about whether or not Australia should be a continent?
    .....welcome to ST.
    And continental plates are NOT the same as continents. They can be much larger or smaller. I was taught Australia was a continent and have only heard of Oceania when discussing the initial splitting of the continents. So it's not that big a deal. Relax some peoples.

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    I'm thinking perhaps a lot Geography teachers should be sacked.

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    I think people learn different things in different countries with teachers who are really old. I'm more confused about which continent Greenland is a part of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by overmind View Post
    I think people learn different things in different countries with teachers who are really old. I'm more confused about which continent Greenland is a part of.
    I always thought of Greenland like I think of Canada. Technically, part of North America, but really, part of Europe.

 

 
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