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    This isn't even logical or possible. Why get worked up over every stupid idea someone speaks aloud? He's probably tenured and will suffer no repercussions no matter the inanity he may spout. Meh. Ig 'im.


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    As a Maths major, I can confirm that this is utter madness. Calculators help a bit in high school, but even there they're only a tool. However, once you hit university level maths, your calculator is next to useless because the problems are either about proving a proposition, or then the numbers are so complex and/or large that you have to use a computer and a program like MATLAB, or Maple to get any sort of reasonable answer. And even then, it's not simply a matter of plugging in the numbers either.

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    "All of this is absurd," Andrews said. "No wonder mathematical achievements in the country are so abysmal. "Arithmetic is the basic skill. If children do not know arithmetic, they can't go on to algebra, which leads to calculus. From there you go on to other things," Andrews said. "It's fine to talk about it, but this is not a good pedagogy."
    This guy already summed things up in the article


    For those who would like to try Matlab without having thousands of dollars to spend, there is also a fairly good free alternative which is octave : http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
    It's 99% the same syntax too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saizou View Post
    As a Maths major, I can confirm that this is utter madness. Calculators help a bit in high school, but even there they're only a tool. However, once you hit university level maths, your calculator is next to useless because the problems are either about proving a proposition, or then the numbers are so complex and/or large that you have to use a computer and a program like MATLAB, or Maple to get any sort of reasonable answer. And even then, it's not simply a matter of plugging in the numbers either.
    That's tough. Im really glad I'm not a math major. After I finish my Calculus 3 class, I'm set and I wont ever have to see it again.
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    ^
    after taking Calc 2, i don't ever want to take Calc 3. it's not that the material is difficult, it's just the assignments were unnecessarily long and time-consuming, at least for me. oh and at Waterloo, we use Maple along with MATLAB - Maple being our own home-grown math software.

    anyway, i agree completely with Jakko, north american education systems (canada included) are a joke compared to the super-competitive east side. i think calculators should be eliminated from elementary schools. children don't need to be "taught" how to use a calculator.. anyone with basic deduction/motor skills can figure it out. not to mention anything taught in elementary is basic, basic math anyway.

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    I gotta say it, and I'm seriously going to catch it for this:

    I'm in my fifth semester of college, one was spent at a different college/major, and I'm taking Math 102.

    If you count Pre-Algebra and Statistics as Algebra then during my entire life I've taken, counting this semester's class, ten whole algebra classes and still couldn't survive in Calculus to save my life. I come from a backwaters, rural Southern school with a very poor literacy rate and low graduation numbers.

    Note: In a non-"forum/chat" situation I'm actually considered a fairly good writer and I read heavily; but, I can't draw an accurate image without having as much as a week's time to bring it up to recognizable accuracy. I'm good at "detective-type" problems; but, not at math-related word problems.

    Try and figure that type out.

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    So, what does he wanna do about those annoying fractions that can't be expressed in terms of decimals cause they don't have a repeating number. (something like 0.1027509157103827206573292...)

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    You could round them, or use their descriptions, like sqrt(2).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terasiel View Post
    I gotta say it, and I'm seriously going to catch it for this:

    I'm in my fifth semester of college, one was spent at a different college/major, and I'm taking Math 102.

    If you count Pre-Algebra and Statistics as Algebra then during my entire life I've taken, counting this semester's class, ten whole algebra classes and still couldn't survive in Calculus to save my life. I come from a backwaters, rural Southern school with a very poor literacy rate and low graduation numbers.

    Note: In a non-"forum/chat" situation I'm actually considered a fairly good writer and I read heavily; but, I can't draw an accurate image without having as much as a week's time to bring it up to recognizable accuracy. I'm good at "detective-type" problems; but, not at math-related word problems.

    Try and figure that type out.

    This is where your school failed you.

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    @terasiel

    if you feel like math is a major roadblock you can't get pass, why are you in programs that require math ? i don't know about you, but i'd switch programs

 

 
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