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    Default TATA (i think) -- India's automobiles

    Sorry, I don't have a web link for this.

    Basically:
    -India made a new car, costs $2500
    -means cars are now affordable to millions more people in china and india
    -massively raises the demand for gasoil around the world
    -disrupts existing flow of oil around the world
    -depletes oil reserves at a much faster rate than present
    -disaster

    Again, one man's opinion.

    But consider:
    The president of TOTAL, the major French petrochemical company, believes that the world is currently at it's peak oil production (89M barrels a year). And that doesn't bode well.

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    Three cheers for transit?

    Honestly I think government were going to have to crack down on oil sometime soon anyhow. Aside from hoping they sink more money into looking at artifically made oil, I hope if anything we're looking at gradual restrictions on car use and more money being put into public transportation. That might mean that the transit is going to go private because I'm not sure our governements can afford an extensive system.

    But then, I know very little about economics. I also speak from the standpoint of one who does not have a car, so to me it's an easier thing to say.

    Oh, Welcome back Aikido ^_^ I've not seen you in a while ^^

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    Portland is doing some interesting things with public transport. It takes a lot of discipline over a long, long period. Hard, whatwith different partisan governers coming in and out of office every four or so years.

    And thanks, good to see you too! Bored at work, so here I am. Was too busy during the school year/summer...

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    Welcome back

    I don't think it's a disaster, but it is sure that we (the younger generations) won't have it as easy as the older ones concerning petrol.
    On a brighter note, maybe it will stop some big companies from delocalizing at the other end of the globe for everything and anything.

    Renault started producing a car like this some years ago btw, the Logan. It was meant for the markets in eastern Europe at first, but it ended up being sold in western Europe too because people were interested by its cheap price. It costs more than the Tata though.


    PS : http://www.leblogauto.com/2008/01/la...en-europe.html
    If the Tata passes the European security and pollution tests, we will be able to get some

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    Why do you have to look at it so negatively. It's true that it will raise oil demands/etc but you have to consider the people who drive motorcycles with their kid(s) and wife in the back seat.


    Here's a pic of the TATA so that you can visualize.

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    In happier news Israel intends on replacing all their cars with electric vehicles and is currently in the process of building 1.5 million charging stations to fuel these cars. They say that, hopefully their infrastructure will be a catalyst to show other countries it can be done and to simultaneously strike out at their oil producing enemies. Gas is $6.50 a gallon in Israel right now.


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    that tata looks like a plastic toy from inside...

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    I think the whole thing looks like a toy. Its ugly as sin. But whatever... cheap > attractive.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bipolargraph View Post
    Why do you have to look at it so negatively. It's true that it will raise oil demands/etc but you have to consider the people who drive motorcycles with their kid(s) and wife in the back seat.
    I think you miss my point. I'm not suggesting that indians and chinese don't deserve to drive because it would cause me heartache. I AM suggesting that such a phenomenon will be the catalyst for a noticable change in the way the world operates it's energy demand.

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    I still say the quicker we run out of oil, the quicker countries that produce Hydrogen and Ethanol in large amounts are going to flourish.

    Not saying there wont be a bitter horror before the Oil is all but completely gone though. Synthetic Lubricants and non-petroleum based products aside, people will be killing each other over this more than now; I imagine.

 

 
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