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    What do you guys think of this practice? I think its a bit backwards to think that by denying what you want you will reach new higher levels of spirituality and morality but I do think I understand the logic behind it. No doubt there were some great ascetics but I wonder how much differently their lives would have been had they not shunned what they loved. How much more could you learn from yourself if you spent the rest of your life by yourself? Then theres the whole common practice of self mortification by ascetics (Lol, Silas in The DaVinci Code much?)... meh. I'm no big fan of material gains and I'm naturally in a bit of self-denial but I wonder why this practice pisses me off... Maybe its the air that whatever feels good will hold you back.

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    I don't really see a problem with it. It seems to me that it basically comes down to the allocation of attention. You either choose to focus your attention on the things of this world, or... not. By reducing the number of earthly things you have to focus your attention on, you have more time and energy to focus on spiritual matters.

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    To each his own.

    Religion and Spiritualism means giving up at least something most of the time. The degree of how much you give up varies from person to person though.

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    I'm not into it but, I can understand the idea. For anyone who is into the spiritual ideas, being attached to worldly things must be a sign of weakness; so, via abstinence one wouldn't be attached to the material, and end up become a pure spiritual being.


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    I doubt that asceticism is any more of a path to a higher spiritual life than hedonism is.

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    I dont think that your spiritual level depends on your wealth.

    I dont even think that one can reach a higher state in his own life.
    You can only reach higher states through evolution, and this needs more generations and genetical mutation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rabidfuzzybunny View Post
    I doubt that asceticism is any more of a path to a higher spiritual life than hedonism is.
    I agree... but unfortunately asceticism is much more respected and followed than hedonism

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    From my experiance every religion the people have to give up something in order to reach a higher form of divinity or find inner peace no matter what it is.

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    I seriously don't understand...

    I want a milkshake, why is it so wrong for me to have a milkshake. I worked for the money to by the milkshake and thus I have earned the milkshake. The milkshake is what I have chosen to work towards obtaining and now that I have the means to aquire said milkshake I'm supposed to chose not to "indulge" in the milkshake so that I can reach some "higher spiritual state". Why does deniaing myself the milkshake bring me to a "higher spiritual state"? ... No answer? Screw that I'll be having my milkshake thank you...

    (Replace milkshake with what ever desire you feel appropriate...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruritsu View Post
    I seriously don't understand...

    I want a milkshake, why is it so wrong for me to have a milkshake. I worked for the money to by the milkshake and thus I have earned the milkshake. The milkshake is what I have chosen to work towards obtaining and now that I have the means to aquire said milkshake I'm supposed to chose not to "indulge" in the milkshake so that I can reach some "higher spiritual state". Why does deniaing myself the milkshake bring me to a "higher spiritual state"? ... No answer? Screw that I'll be having my milkshake thank you...

    (Replace milkshake with what ever desire you feel appropriate...)
    I, for one, respect buddhist monks a great deal. I do not respect you very much. What does that imply?

 

 
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