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    overmind is offline Senior Member Respected Member
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    everyone knows we will die in 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saizou
    Hell, this is Russia. We're talking the country where pumping poison gas into an crowded theater is considered a valid tactic to deal with a hostage situation. I would be surprised if this didn't end with somebody dead.
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    And also the country that thought that a shot-out between the "negotiators" and the kidnappers in Beslan would solve the hostage´s situation. I will be surprised too, Saizou, if this situation doesn´t end with the whole hostages dead.
    While both of this situations were failures of ФСБ (I dunno how you call it in english) seeing the number of victims, I fail to see how such situations can be resolved without hostages being killed at all.

    Also, how this is connected to group of idiots locking themselves into some cave waiting for the end of the world? Oh, and who exactly do you consider a hostage in this situation?
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    Well the world better go boom after my birthday... <.<

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    ^so your birthdays at the end of April? Then your birthday will end with a bang

    whats up with people and caves? Thats the exact same thing that happened when year 2000 came. people started saying about the end, horseman of apocalypse, Jesus Christ second coming and then they started hiding in caves. =_=

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox View Post
    While both of this situations were failures of ФСБ (I dunno how you call it in english) seeing the number of victims, I fail to see how such situations can be resolved without hostages being killed at all.
    Other nations seem to be capable of resolving hostage situations without excessive damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by reinard-fox
    Also, how this is connected to group of idiots locking themselves into some cave waiting for the end of the world? Oh, and who exactly do you consider a hostage in this situation?
    The hostages would be the children that they have in the cave. Now, if a bunch of religious nuts want to blow themselves up, fine, good riddance. However, they have no right to take innocents with them.

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    I think they are all pretty innocent, Who knows what kind of brainwash they have gone through by the leader O_o

    But it would be better to leave them alone, and let them come out by them selves, and then quickly snatch the kids...Don't think it will become succesfull if a swat team is goin inside a, one way in/out cave, filled with dynamite...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saizou View Post
    Other nations seem to be capable of resolving hostage situations without excessive damage.
    Especially dealing with bunch of crazy fanatics who wraped themselves with explosives?

    Also, what do you consider as "OK" damage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saizou View Post
    The hostages would be the children that they have in the cave. Now, if a bunch of religious nuts want to blow themselves up, fine, good riddance. However, they have no right to take innocents with them.
    We do not know the opinion of children, do we? Why are you confident that they are not as crazy as thier parents?

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    ^Only if your goal is to blow up some random people and the swat team...

    Then that plan would be quite successful...

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    Raszagal is offline Senior Member Community Builder
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    Yeah, then I'll guess its peachy all right ^^

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    Dats the stupidest thing ive ever heard.
    1.What is the point of the cave?...Fail
    2.Why is the priest sleeping in a coffin?...Fail
    3.If the priest is a schizophrenic why were they following him?..Harum Fail

 

 
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